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Go60Guy

3:28 pm on Aug 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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In doing a search, the #1 ranked page that came up bore little resemblence to what was described in Google. The url for the page that actually was presented was this (names omitted). The domain name was entirely different from what was shown on Google.

http://www.xxxxxxxx.com/xxxxxxx.htm?&engine=www.google.com&search=yyyyyyy+zzzzzzzz

AT the very least it is a redirect. Is is cloaking or something else? Just curious. Of course, I'd like the competing page I'm constructing to come up #1.

ciml

1:50 pm on Aug 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if it's a Web based proxy? If someone links to it and it's not /robots.txt excluded then it can come up in the search (or even if it is robots excluded bu has good inbound links).

Go60Guy

4:11 pm on Aug 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks ciml. Again, just wondering if anyone has seen anything like this.

whitem59

5:12 pm on Aug 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday, I began searching for relevant linking partners for some keywords for the first time after the last update. What I am finding is a ton of redirecting pages in many of the top spots for quite a few keywords of relevance to me.

I also had to preform several searches yesterday not related to my on-line business, and the same thing - lots of garbage listings, redirects, etc.

Digging a little deeper, I discoverd that many of the pages that were redirecting on some keywords were all pointed at the same affiliate site with the affiliate code....hmmmm. They were under multiple domains and used the same keywords in the page name. There are always some of these pages in the results, but Google seems to be overwhelmed by them as a result of the last update.

It is also curious that the impact of a listing on dmoz seems to be downgraded. Maybe it is the amount of outbound links in the ODP now. But prior to the last update, about 80% of the top results for kw's I follow had a directory listing also. After this update, only about 40% on the first two pages had directory listings (and I follow several hundred keywords across four unrealted categories). One can say whatever they want about dmoz, but at least they are able to normally screen out the obvious spam.

Maybe the focus on snaring link spam in the algos has allowed some good old fashioned key word and cloaking spam in. Another factor supporting this is that many of the top ranked pages on many of these keywords have PR's of around 3 when they used to be 4 and 5 - I foucus on obscure and niche keywords. It is possible that the more stringent controls on link spam led to the downgrading/penalizing of many 4 and 5 sites with content and allowed many pure spam pages with low PR to rise to the top. This is particularly true for niche seacrhc terms since the last update, IMO.

Go60Guy

10:57 pm on Aug 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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What's so curious to me is the reference to "www.google.com&search" followed by the key words in the url. Is this some kind of technique we should know about? In this case, the site had a #1 ranking as I mentioned above.

Hemsell

11:59 pm on Aug 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That looks like a bad spammer that GoogleGuy is after.
You can read some of his posts about it and the people he has hurt over at the Google Forum.

I think it is a feed from the directory (DMOZ) that has been altered with redirects.

It will be removed.

You should post the results at google forum.

Todd

Go60Guy

3:28 am on Aug 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Hemsell - aren't we in the Google Forum or have I missed something? I've done some further digging and do believe this is major spam. In one instance, who ever is doing this has eight of the top ten rankings for the keyword combo on Google.

The title to the #1 page is for a product which isn't even mentioned once on the page to which you're redirected.

What I've done is construct a page that's unassailable and well optimized for the keywords using the same approach that's brought me several #1 rankings in this category. I'm going to see if my legitimate page can outrank the spammed out pages.

I'm not into being an internet cop, but I would like to educate myself further about this. Could you pm me with the url where this is being discussed or post it if its on Webmasterworld? Thanks.

Brett_Tabke

4:14 am on Aug 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No sure what that was a reference too Go60.

It is a simple open proxy site. There are 4-5 of them a month. Remember bigate? and the dozen other ones. That one looks like it is specific to google.