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Is SEO the same out of the sandbox as it was pre sandbox?

do links count the same or do you have to wait

     
12:33 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For those of you with sites not in the sandbox (please no discussion on if the sandbox is real or not)
Do you find new inbound links boost your rankings as quickly as the pre-sandbox days, or are they taking much longer to have an effect?
8:59 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Iíll start then,
From my perspective (one site out of the sand)

New links are not boosting my rankings as quickly as they did in the pre-sandbox days.

10:08 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1)Quality of the link, from an expert/authority site count faster.
2)One ways are worth more.
3)Links seem to have to age more now to be worth something.
11:40 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For post sandbox sites, they usually rank faster on Yahoo and MSN, so I am always telling my customers about these engines, and giving examples of sites that are post sandbox and doing great. I actually point my customers to threads here at WebmasterWorld so they can see that Google is not indexing new sites. After they see that other experts are having the same problem, they realize:
1) It is understandable why they are not ranking in Google.
2) They can still make money with Yahoo and MSN

I heard from a reputable source that MSN is going live by mid January (if not early January). It's going to get interesting. :)

12:04 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Links seem to have to age more now to be worth something

I also believe this is the case but I'm curious to find out if links gained after a site is out of the sandbox need to age also.

e.g. If I'm ranking #5 on Google for "widgets" out of 8,000,000 results and then I get a link on the front page of Yahoo, dmoz and google would I hit #1 in the next week - or would I have to let these links age?

1:16 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Gerbot, in my experience you have to wait longer.
2:14 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1)Quality of the link, from an expert/authority site count faster.
2)One ways are worth more.
3)Links seem to have to age more now to be worth something.

Sounds like a great ad for a site that specializes in selling links. :)

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Sounds like a great ad for a site that specializes in selling links. :)

unless you look at the third point which suggests you need to buy the links over a long period of time

6:51 pm on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Keep the links out of the same C class
9:43 pm on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Manage the anchor text of your links - be natural.
 

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