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My site count is more then I have

         

zeus

1:48 am on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My visits has droped 70% from lat last month and I think that google had have some trouble spidering the site or droped a few pages on the way to a new ranking, I don think it has something to do with a new ranking. Here today I noticed I had 3900 page when I made a site: search, but I think I only have 2000 pages, so what this.

Stefan

2:39 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any chance that you have pages listed twice, once with a www and a second listing without? That can mess up your serps.

JonR28

2:55 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also could be dynamic content. (i.e.?id=19391 kind of stuff.)

promis

4:27 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same with my site. It has around 2000 pages and this month Google shows over 5000. Only www indexed. My SERPs went down as a result. I guess PR is now shared also by the "ghost" pages. I emailed Google but no reply yet.

Herenvardo

4:49 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I get too few pages listed on G and complain... you get too much pages listed on G and complain...
Anyway, both the multi-listing (with/out 'www') and the dynamic content are potential causes of your issue.
Also, it could be a problem if you have some strange (non-HTTP) redirects, but I feel that nobody who has posted more than 800 times in webmasterworld will do such a thing.

I've seen that most replies to questions/issues in forums (in general, not only here) tell causes of the issue, but very few give solutions. So, there are some suggestions:

- Check your links. If there are two different URIs that point to the same resource, this resource could easily listed twice. You should check both internal and inbound links.
- About dynamic content... if this is the true cause of your issue, you'll have a lot of work... The best I can suggest you is to check the name of your dynamic files variables. If there are files that use the same name for different porposes, any automated system (a robot, for example) will have a lot of problems to deal with that correctly.
Try to keep your URIs clear, unambiguous and syntetic. If you do, and the bot still has problems to crwal you, it's due to a G's error and not yours.

Greetings,
Herenvardö

markus007

5:08 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The site command etc only returns a ESTIMATE of pages that are indexed, not the actual count.

GodLikeLotus

5:16 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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markus007> The site command etc only returns a ESTIMATE of pages that are indexed, not the actual count.

ESTIMATE being the joke word. Am I the only one who fails to see why something so simple as "How many pages in a web site" or "Which pages link to your site" has to be an ESTIMATE.

I thought computers can work out anything mathematical in fractions of a second.

zeus

5:35 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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the site is pure static html and a forum which is php, but only a few pages, I just metion this because it could be a cause of why im down in serps, maybe other site a messing with the site if that is possible, because I have seen sites that redirect to mine, but I cant do anything about that, so I dont think Google does any panelty about that.

I would be happy if I had so many pages, but I dont, I think I got about 2000 pages.

It could also be a glitch in Google spidering and which will be corrected next month, because they have added so many site, which I dont like, it will not be long before we only see dynamic pages.

jnmconsulting

5:38 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As far as the site command being an estimate...It gives me exactly how many pages I have in my site. When i add a new page it does reflect that in G. I have been under the assuption it is not an estimate but acctual. If G is telling you it is lower than your actual page count on your site then it a problem with either G not being able to find the page or A problem with links on webmasters end.

zeus

5:49 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just made a site: search again and saw 10 php domains redirecting to my site, but it is another domain so why is it listed under my search site:www.mydomain.com and those ten are for sure not all.

markus007

7:03 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I thought computers can work out anything mathematical in fractions of a second.

Sure they can, but for a huge site every single computer in every single datacenter would give a different answer as the index is in constant flux.

jimh009

9:08 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is related to the sudden spike of pages some people have been reporting in Google. My own site - about 4000 pages - suddently spiked up to showing 8000 pages in Google. Rankings have remained the same and all pages are basically static HTML.

Just a googlebug of some sort, apparently.

Rick_M

10:22 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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JimH,

The increased number of pages isn't only being reported by users, but also by Google themselves. They happily reported they doubled the size of their index recently. They point out that this mainly impacts terms that are rare - like searching for people's names.

As far as I (and other people have reported) there are no noticeable differences in the search results for most common searches.

Other people speculate that Google increased their index size today to counter anticipation for Microsoft's anticipated search engine release today - which appears to have turned out to be just them moving their Beta search engine to a new domain name (still Beta) and with a modified interface.

jimh009

12:19 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> The increased number of pages isn't only being reported by users, but also by Google themselves. They happily reported they doubled the size of their index recently. They point out that this mainly impacts terms that are rare - like searching for people's names.

So I see on G's home page. Still, makes me wonder why Google is reporting double the number of pages I actually have right now.

zeus

12:47 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Jimh - yes it is a little wired I hope they get it fixed at the next update and the ranking for my internal site are back, I still think it is a glitch because they have added so manny site, I just dont hope thet we only will see big company php sites now.

Rick_M

1:20 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not just on the home page, but in their blog:

[google.com...] blog/
(remove space - odd that the forum editted that)

Whether they are counting duplicate pages or not in that new number is hard to say. I agree though, for some of my sites the number seems much higher than I would have guessed. In my case, though, I'm guessing it is some dynamically generated pages (ie, forums) and it includes different parameters - sorting by date ascending and descending, etc.

What will be more interesting is when they do their next ranking update, which I'm very eagerly anticipating.

grelmar

3:55 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not just on the home page, but in their blog:

[google.com...] blog/
(remove space - odd that the forum editted that)

Posted a new thread when I saw the blog, then noticed this entry.

Timing is everything, think maybe Goog is trying to steal MSN's thunder and put some pressure on them at the same time?