Subdomains and the sandbox...

Anyone have luck beating the sandbox with subdomains?

[sauce]

Hey all! I know most people are having a hella time getting a new site indexed and ranked because of the sandboxbut has anyone seen good results using a subdomain to launch a new site on an old site... that say has been indexed and ranked for a couple of years? Like newsite.widgets.com instead of newsite.com... Just wondering if this would be a way around the horrific time period now to see results.

sauce

[adb64]

I just launched a new site as a subdomain under an already long existing domain with high PR and the new domain was indexed fast and already shows up high in the SERP within a few weeks after its launch.
So in my opinion it pays off to launch a new site as subdomain.

[Duke_of_Url]

hi sauce, yeah SDs can work

I put up a one page test on 14th September 04, as a subdomain of a site thats been around for a year or so. Placed a couple of links from well established sites across to it. Saw googlebot and miragobot have a sniff after a day or so, and my first visitor that came in via a google search today. Whether this SD is now a permanent fixture in the index or not I don't know, maybe it'll pop in and out of serps and not settle for a while, so I'll keep an eye on it and see how it goes. I've had success with a few (several hundred page) SDs in recent months, so its worth a go.

DoU

[SEOPTI]

No, subdomains don't work.

[Macro]

Sorry to take the thread off course but "sandbox" is apparently a misnomer, it's a quarantine or "holding cell". Sandbox refers to something else altogether.

Back OT, I don't believe a sub domain suffers the "holding cell" effect. A couple of good, third party links to it may help.

[killroy]

Well, after I had noticed how eager is to find new domains, I wanted t otry something. Basically as soon as a new domain was up google was all over it, freshbotting it every day. But the linked pages, domain.com/productname it didn't visit all week. So I changed the structure to productname.domain.com and basically made each product into its own one page website linked through the "directory" at domain.com... Lo and behold, next day, google whammed through all of them and now freshbots them every day.

Draw your own conclusions...

SN

[UK_Web_Guy]

This has been discussed already in the other thread "Beating the penalty effect"

Some have reported success, others not - same as brand new domains basically, some have had immediate success with these, others ok after a few months (2-3) then there are lot of others like me who have been waiting 8 months+

There doesn't seem to be any golden rule - there are so many other things to take into account, IP address of where links come from, on page optimisation, speed links are added, quantity of links etc etc

What works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other...