301 Redirect - SE Ranking Not Recouped

301 Redirect from http://www.domain1.ie to http://domain2.com

[caragh]

Hi,
A 301 redirect was set up from [example1.ie...] to [example2.com....] The site was doing well in Google before the redirect. However, the redirect was done over 2 months ago and no PR has carried over and the site is not coming up for any of the search terms that it was previously coming up for.

Is there any chance that this is because the redirect is pointing to [example2.com...] not [example2.com?...] Or is it likely to be something else?

Thanks

[edited by: pageoneresults at 3:06 pm (utc) on Sep. 8, 2004]
[edit reason] Examplified URI References [/edit]

[Mr_Roberto]

Google seems to be implementing some major "time delays" now to frustrate SEOs, which is all you might be seeing. Pagerank as seen in the toolbar in particular may take considerably longer than 2 months to show up for new pages. Perhaps they have a similar quarantine period for domain 301 redirects now?

The www versus non-www is very unlikely to be any problem. I certainly wouldn't change it now, because you may well reset whatever time delays google is implementing. Your best bet is probably just to wait it out, and make doubly sure that your redirects are set up properly (and yes its frustrating dealing with a system for which you can only guess at the rules!).

P.S. You might want to write to [e-mail] just to verify that your new domain does not carry any penalties - they are pretty good at replying to such inquiries within a week or two.

[Powdork]

If a rose were called by any other name, would it not smell as sweet?

On June 6 I redirected a subdirectory of an old domain to a new domain. I am still waiting to receive a small fraction of the old subdirectory's google traffic.
Google used to be good at organizing the world's information. They don't seem to be up to the task anymore. Why is the same content, with the same backlink structure, any less relevant because of the domain name.

[WebGuerrilla]

>>Google used to be good at organizing the world's information. They don't seem to be up to the task anymore.

They're too busy counting their money.

[diamondgrl]

I implemented 301s about a 3-4 weeks ago on a wide range of pages and have seen no transfer of PR from the old to the new yet.

Frankly since overall traffic has grown (likely due to the end of summer), I haven't tried to determine exactly how much this has affected referrals to these pages but it would be a good thing to look at. However, it's important to point out that just because PR does not show on the toolbar does not mean that Google does not register any PR internally. For all we know, the SERPs more quickly transfer the PR from one to the other than the toolbar shows.

[Powdork]

They're too busy counting their money.

Or their index has reached it's limit.
The only way to get in is to get someone else booted out. Think of the laborforce they would have instantly.;)

[Powdork]

For all we know, the SERPs more quickly transfer the PR from one to the other than the toolbar shows.

My new site (the same one referenced above) has had pr for months, still no rankings whereas it used to be on first page for many queries.

[rfgdxm1]

>They're too busy counting their money.

Methinks the Administror here has a point. DON'T assume the any SE will do things like you think the ought to.

[isitreal]

Google is definitely slow to update 301's, I'm waiting to see that on a site too. This isn't the only thing I'm seeing not working well though, more and more I've been doing very technical searches, which used to be the main strength of google, and finding this odd pattern:

Serp 1 is very good, usually what I'm looking for, or close enough
2-20 is total garbage, almost useless.

Then I did an even more focused search, for a unix type matter, and got zero useable results from google, had to go to yahoo to get any answer at all. And that was on a very precise search terms that should have yielded only real results on the first page, but that didn't happen.

If google doesn't fix whatever is wrong with it soon, when MSN finally comes out [and MSN is indexing my large sites fully, all the time, repeatedly, and seems to have no trouble making enough room for every page of every site, and finding every new site fast, and indexing every new site completely, like google used to do in the old days, but which it seems to have lost the ability to do today. If google isn't full, as powdork notes, then it should start acting like it isn't.] I think google might find its loyal user base not quite as loyal as they think they are. Currently the main group of people who seem to be able to work google appears to be the very group who all these algo tweaks were supposed to get rid of, spammers and pro SEO types.

[caragh]

Thanks a lot for all that information.