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keyword.domain.org adding to PR

Spam not in top SERPs are still valid

         

JohnieWalker

5:05 am on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A new software ad I recently saw states: create effective doorway pages with keywords optimized for google almost instantly.

You would say that the old spam days are gone.

But no, it appears that many sites come up higher because of greater PR due to these spams.

I saw what they're doing only after investigating on their links, which resulted in hundreds of keyword.random_domain.org pages. Clicking on G cache showed the secret (the regular URL usually takes you to the non-spammed page).

I don't have the software but figure that it takes your keywords, does a search online for (mostly) *news* related to keyword, mixes sentences into one paragraph, fills random sized pages, creates many links inbound (other keyword_spammed pages), and some outbound to other keyword.otherdomain.net so you can have 100s of pages on multiple domains in no time...

Although these spam domains don't appear in top of SERPs, they do add to the PR of the targeted domain.

My site is going down making place for those who spam. In terms of quality links they're not even close to mine.

Shall I take the risk and use this trick too? On the other hand, I felt already what it means to spam (PR grayed out in '02 for just a little...) - the question is how would Google be able to weed this out since it's done in a very clever way.

JohnieWalker

12:57 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anybody there?

Outdoor

1:46 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, Johnie Walker, I am here. I don't have the experience to answer your question. But I have thought the same thing. I have several sites that were doing well in all the search engines until Feb of this year. Then I fell completely out of Google. I am still in the top 5 in Yahoo, MSN, AltaVista et al but I'm only back up to #112 in Google. I feel like something is definately wrong but I don't know what to do about it.
I would consider using a throw away site. One that is not your best and not a money site. Try it and see what happens. It is a shame we have to resort to these tactics for Google.

JohnieWalker

2:02 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems this needs some clarification:

1. It's not boiler plate templates; it's not random words from dictionary either. It's pure content spam.

Seems it gets your keyword(s), does a search on google news for those, and creates sentences/paragraphs/pages/sites out of the result pages.

2. These pages don't appear in the SERPs for the keyword, but do appear *on top* in backlinks for sites appearing first.

The question is how would Google be able to weed this out since it's done in a very clever way.

webnewton

5:59 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Johnie can you sticky me the specifictions of this software with the example you are citing.

rocco

8:24 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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post in other forums as well
send a spam report, include links to the boards

do not try such techniques on your domain
do not try such techniques on your server
do not try such techniques with your whois info
do not try such techniques with your nameserver
do not try such techniques AT ALL!

gpmgroup

9:44 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here's an example, these people are not using subdomains, just directories full of hundreds of pages with made up junk text and a few links which link back to the pages they are trying to promote.

Each page is entirely different so I would imagine Google would have its work cut out trying to remove these pages automatically.

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JohnieWalker

3:22 am on Sep 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Got no answer so far.
Explained in #1 and added in #4.
Seems you didn't read the details.

Thanks for responding anyway.

kwngian

4:11 am on Sep 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The amount of sites doing this is amazing. Fortunately, google don't rank them well enough.

Still it is depressing to see your contents being used in this way.

Just do a search on google sites containing your domain name and you will see a big list.