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301 redirect = crosslinking?

New domain, same ip

         

ketchupchips

11:29 pm on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello, a few months ago I changed my domain. My pr went down to 0 on both domains and hasn't come back. I wanted to keep the old domain for different projects, so I put a normal link on the front page to inform visitors.

After some research here I found out that google doesn't like that, so it was removed about a week ago. However, I still have multiple 301 apache redirects pointing to files on the new domain.

Will these redirects cause google to continue giving my website a penalty?

Also, when searching for the new domain on google the "crosslink" will show up in the summary, but when searching for the old domain the correct (updated) summary shows up, strange thing is that the cached version also is the correct one. Google crawls my websites regulary, how long would it take for this "crosslink" penalty to go away?

Thanks in advance everybody!

ketchupchips

3:29 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nobody has had any experience with this?

jcoronella

3:45 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would guess that the problem lies elsewhere. A lot can go wrong when you move domains. 301 an old site to a new works just fine as it should. Start here and see if you can find anything:

caveman's: A Dropped Site Checklist [webmasterworld.com]

In particular, make sure you've done all your 301's right. Check every page on the old site to make sure it goes to the new site correctly.

Also, do you know the history of your new domain? Was it an expired domain? Check for old whois records: Who Was [openaccess.dialog.com]. There may be a penalty on the new domain.

Does anyone know the effects of sandboxing on moving old domains? You may be experiencing this.

rrl

9:04 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've had mixed results with 301 redirects. Sometimes the rankings aren't affected and sometimes the site drops out completely. Lately, it seems like a new domain will disappear despite doing a 301, so I just won't do it anymore.

MikeNoLastName

10:49 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think this is a recent aberation in Google involving timing rather than a penalty and I too am hoping the problem works itself out. We had a similar situation where we simply moved a bunch of content from an old site to a new domain that was more appropriate (i.e. expansion into a new market) using 301s. This was done about a month - 1-1/2 ago, right around the time G was doing a crawl and came back with a bunch of blank descriptions. Since then the redirected page which was previously scoring in the top20 on a very popular term, with a PR5 now has a PR0, however still ranks in the exact same spot! I've been assuming its a glitch at G or having to so with the timing relative to a crawl. I'd give it another G-cycle before assuming a penalty or worrying too much.
On a connected note, I've noticed Y! has a definite problem with refresh meta tags. We used to put up a page when a part of the site went away, to tell people and then automatically forward them to the closest new section after about 15 seconds. However Y! almost always ended up replacing the newer section in the index with the URL for the older page and the description of the new page. So ended up keeping the old page with a link but having to get rid of the metarefreshes and it cleared itself up after a week or so.