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Add new content now?

Or wait for pages to be indexed?

         

dickbaker

6:33 pm on Aug 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have a 1300+ page site that I submitted to G seven weeks ago. It's still in the sandbox. Google comes around once a day, looks at one page and leaves.

The index page is now in G's index. Five or six others were for a week or so, but now they've disappeared. If I do an allinanchor or allintext search for my site, I get the index page and all the sites linking to mine. That's it.

I've been adding a page or two of new content each week, although I have a couple hundred pages of new content that I'm holding back on adding. My thinking is that if G hasn't indexed the pages that would link to these new pages, it would be better to wait, so that G would regard them as "new" content.

Am I correct in my thinking, or way off base.

Any replies much appreciated.

goodroi

1:54 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would constantly post new content and change exisitng pages. Google likes sites that are changing. They will crawl you more often if you can convine them there will be something different. Sandbox is more about the agin of links not the aging of content.

tenerifejim

3:40 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If I read you correctly, what you are saying is that G is not indexing you very much and has yet to index the full 13,000 pages. So there is no point putting in more content until Google has read the last lot. Yes?

Think of it a couple of ways. It would be nice to save that content and then add it at a later date when google does index.

But (a) would your users find the information useful now?
(b) Would other people who might link to it find it useful?
(c) Would Google see it first time and alter the way it indexs your site.

A large site with low PR often takes a while to get fully indexed. I suggest changing links regularly on your home page to new content you want indexed. This seems to work well for me.

Rugles

8:02 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The title of this thread should be "Add new content now!" instead of "Add new content now?".
It is always a good time to add content.

dickbaker

11:25 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the replies. To clarify: the home page has just nine links, each to separate sections of the site. One section of the site covers individual manufacturers. Each of those manufacturer pages has links to anywhere from 50 to 100 individual model pages from the particular manufacturer.

The content I have to add is other manufacturers, and the individual models from those manufacturers.

If G hasn't even looked at the page with the links to the individual manufacturers, how would it see any new content as "new?"

This new sandbox thing is really driving me up the wall. In the past I got hobby sites and favors-for-friends sites indexed and highly ranked in 30 days or less. Now that I'm laying my savings on the line for this site, G goes and changes everything.

Aaargh!

tenerifejim

9:26 am on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you have many inbound links? The more you have, the more google will have a look at what you have got.

Try getting some deep links from other sites straight to your lower level content.

How are your links done? Via Javascript?

Maybe change your front page a little every other day. Is there much content on the home page?

Rugles

12:21 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>If G hasn't even looked at the page with the links to the individual manufacturers, how would it see any new content as "new?"

Don't worry about making sure the site looks fresh to g-bot just yet. It is always a good idea to add content, the more text that is indexed the more traffic you will get.

Vicente Duque

1:54 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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IPO Mania :

We won't see Strong Reindexing in Google until the IPO is Past History.

Now Google thinks only of Money and Getting Super Rich when the Bell of Wall Street makes a happy sound of starting the Morning Trade. That will be the IPO 'D' Day.

We won't know what is going on Algos and Killing the Little Ants like me until the Trading Session is Over and the Googlos are happy counting their Super Billions.

You will see Happy Smiles in CNN in the Wall Stret Balcony when the Trading Session is Over and there is New Competition in Forbes/Fortune to Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos for Top Positions.

Vicente

dhaliwal

2:07 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nice Thoughts by the Person who posted last.
I forgot the name cause its not simple to remember, but its worth remembering.

Dhaliwal

dickbaker

9:43 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks again for the replies. I don't use javascript links, but I do have image links. I've backed those up with text links at the bottom of the page to make it easier for G to follow (along with a link to the site map).

Near as I can tell from the log files, Google is only looking at the index page. The bot is coming around every day at about 4 am. So, this afternoon I added a link in the text to one of the deeper level pages. If it picks up on that, I'll change that link every day to see what happens.

As far as incoming links go, I have quite a few from PR5+ sites, and they're showing up in an allinanchor search, even though the index page on my site is the only one that shows. I'm trying to get more quality links.

This is very frustrating and, considering that money is involved, more than a bit frightening.

trillianjedi

9:48 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Relax, all perfectly normal. 7 weeks is still very young. Your only mistake is giving yourself an unrealistic timescale.

Keep adding content, don't wait around - google will catch up with you eventually.

the more text that is indexed the more traffic you will get.

Never a truer word spoken....

Keep plugging away at getting inbound links too. The deeper the better.

TJ

dickbaker

9:37 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, G stopped by last night and crawled hundreds of pages. I don't know if that was the result of simply changing a link on the home page, but it's certainly a positive sign.

If I see similar crawls the next few days, I'll be one happy camper!