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I don't see any compensating positives here. Recent subdomain crap still hasn't been culled out here like it normally is after a couple cycles.
Exactly. Basically, I think what is going on is that in the Google Dances of days gone by, Google all at once threw in the new page data, new backlinks, new anchor text, new algo etc. into the pot at once. So, the update was major. What we see in this update is likely just one of these new elements being rolled in.
I also don't believe that sandboxing thing is a probationary dealie for new sites, in spite of the apparent delay. I think it's got more to do with some kind of off-line processing so that the processing effiency real-time can be more efficient than it otherwise would be.
Where in the world would I get such a hair-brained, half-baked theory? From reading Kleinberg - SETS for starters. :)
The DC talked of yesterday has now come into line with the rest - differences can now be seen on [188.8.131.52...]
Whether this is really relevant or means anything is unclear - it isn't an update, as people say those days are gone.
However, there will be update style changes still from time to time as algo changes are made - this may be a tweak of one that we are starting to see - it may be nothing.
Austin and Brandy were both algo changes - have we had third this year?
Frankly, the results I am seeing are of less quality than just a few days ago. Seeing an increase in AdSense spam pages, among other things.
This is the new serp dance, such as it is.
As in this post's case, people are talking about seeing changes while others say they aren't. Be nice to know what cat's are being effected. :-)
PS. I have ADD and can't read through the charter or tos so please forgive me if this is stated as a no no there. Although if it is, perhaps this should be changed? :-)
I see some more fluctuation and the only thing that is logical is the fact that msn and yahoo traffic keeps rising while G traffic falls. I am #1 for the best key phrase in my industry on G, but the rest of the results have deteriorated.
I made reference a few days ago about how irrelevant the results are in my sector and referred to searching for tires and finding hub caps.... now I check and it's worse.... similar to searching for "tires" and finding sites about lug nuts, jacks, valve stems and headlights...
sure, they are all part of a car, and I have to admit that my google conversion ratio is much higher due to my website being one of the few that pertain to the search terms.....
... but this bothers me...
I guess they sold out just in time... if the results stay this poor, people WILL go elsewhere. I am at the top on EVERY engine right now for the "money terms" so I am not worried, but I have also been a HUGE fan of google. Google has been my personal search engine of choice for a few years now and I really don't want to switch, but even searching for my own interests I am mostly unhappy.
I'm finding much fresher sites than anywhere else, but I keep seeing more and more results that are barely on topic.
Since I am #1 right now and benefiting greatly I shouldn't complain, but to tell you the truth, I would rather not see Y or B.G. step in and take market share away from my beloved G, but that's seems to be what's happening.
As a webmaster I guess I should be happy and shut up, as a "Joe Surfer" I am confused as to why they would do this? Half of what I search for returns 70%+ garbage results. On the other hand, I saw something similar last year in May and it was "fixed" within a few weeks. At that time, I took a big hit, made no changes, and returned to the top.
I'm glad I didn't buy stock...
I have been looking at the first page for a couple of days and scratching my head, wondering how google could think a few of these sites belong in the top ten, while formitable competitors have been banished...
I just looked at the second page and had a good laugh...
This is so wrong... I really can't beleive this is what they intended to do... maybe they just want to ruin their stock so they can buy all they shares people dump, and then return to being "The King"
[edited by: my3cents at 8:01 am (utc) on July 16, 2004]
The datacenters are just sort of all over the board now.
Personally I think comparing these results is quite interesting, but I don't think there is any way to conclude (at least in my main areas) if the basic changes are good or bad... both good/bad are showing on different datacenters.
how can you say:
"I think a few datacenters are better, while a few are worse"
and then say:
"I don't think there is any way to conclude... if the basic changes are good or bad"
maybe I am suffering from sleep deprivation?
according to my understanding:
I have often noticed these non-keyword1 pages showing up for keyword1 searches. I don't understand why Google doesn't have an algo to eliminate these obviously undesirable pages from the top results.
The top 10 has been shuffled like a deck of cards every 12-24 hours for the last 2 weeks for me. Today the SERP looks pretty much exactly the way it looked like before the shuffle ever began.
I would deffinitely not call this an "update" so far but there's been a heck of a lot of shuffling going around around. I'd heard before that G was going to move more towards frequent incremental tweaks over massive updates so this is probably what we're seeing.
good= Being positive or desirable in nature; not bad or poor
better= Being positive or desirable in nature; not bad or poor
bad= More inferior, as in quality, condition, or effect
worse= Not measuring up to recognized standards of excellence, as of behavior or conduct