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does using adsense help in getting indexed.

         

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10:50 am on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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does using google adsense help you in getting indexed by any chance? as in indexing your forum pages specially.

trillianjedi

10:51 am on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No.

jouwpagina

11:50 am on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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But, there are people who say that you will score a bit better with Google Adsense. I don't believe this, but it might be true.

Sanenet

12:03 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nope.

Different spider, different engine, different algos, different machines. People claiming to see differences in your SERPS by using Adsense are living a pipe dream. Time to kill this rumour!

ncw164x

12:10 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it did work earlier on this year but has been stopped now,

I got a lot of very big sites into google without doing any submissions, just clicked on the pages to force mediabot to spider and within a few days was getting visitors from google, within 2 - 3 weeks all of the site pages were listed.

like I said it did work but not any more, that backdoor has been slammed shut

ncw164x

arrowman

12:37 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, I haven't noticed any effect.

bnhall

12:42 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have sites which, 2-3 days after being put online with Adsense are in the main SERPs. Seems a little quick for me, so I think there might be a connection.

varya

10:36 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I launched a new site earlier this year. I spent about three months developing the pages. I added the Adsense code as I went, and visited the pages so that they'd be showing ads when I went live with the site.

Googlebot never visited the site.

Googlebot showed up after I placed a link on another page (different domain) that gets spidered daily.

The adsense code and viewing the site had zero impact on the site showing up in the serps.

PhraSEOlogy

10:43 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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varya,

Same experience here. Adsense has zero impact on getting indexed. In fact googlebot is reluctant to crawl my entire site which has adsense on a lot of the pages.

Clark

11:57 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I tested this early on with a page that only became known through visiting the page once trigerring a mediabot visit. The page never made it into the serps. I would tend to think eventually google will use adsense in a similar way as (I assume) they do the toolbar. If a lot of visitors with different ips visit a page w/ adsense (I'm assuming their javascript detects these things and logs all this per url) they will consider it a "popular" page and adjust their rankings.

lnternet

3:32 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Actually most of you are wrong.
Google Adsense DOES affect your ranking in Google.

Now you have to understand the Google Adsense system a bit better then most fo the people who posted here, first off you won't get a spider to come into your site and view more of your pages if you use Adsense.

You also won't get any benefit if you simply paste Adsense code into a site that you've just made if you got that Adsense code by submitting another site to Google to be approved for the Adsense network.

Now what I am about to tell you is well known to the high end SEO and to the people close to Google. When you apply to the join the Adsense program you must submit a site for Google to review and approve to show ads on. The site that you submit actually goes though a manual review process, which involves an actual Google employee visiting your site and reviewing your content. In this review there the reviewer has the option to pass the content or fail the content if you get a pass you will also get a bonus value put on your site in the Google search database.

The good news is if your content fails the review you are not penalized but then again I guess you are in the fact that you can't run Adsense but your Google rankings won't be affected.

Now this is a proven system, it is also one of 3 things you can do to force Google to index your site and get out of the so called "sandbox" which causes many newbie sites problems.

So in short, to get an advantage in using Adsense you must actual apply to Adsense with the domain that you wish gain advantage with. Simply pasting the code that you've already been given form another Adsense approval will do NOTHING to help your site.

Hope this clears up the question and gives more people the knowledge of the full power of Adsense.

jouwpagina

3:42 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They also check the domains you didn't submit in your mainaccount. But I think they do that after x impressions or earnings.

europeforvisitors

3:49 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



In this review there the reviewer has the option to pass the content or fail the content if you get a pass you will also get a bonus value put on your site in the Google search database.

That sounds like another urban legend--one of the many that we see here and on the Google News forum.

In a Google News thread titled "Shift in Google," GoogleGuy stated categorically on July 9:

Advertising with Google (AdWords or AdSense) has no connection (positive or negative) to Google's rankings.
Somebody else just cut and paste this the next time. :)

I'm inclined to believe GoogleGuy--not only because he seems to be a pretty straight-up guy, but also because unsullied search results are Google's core product and it wouldn't make sense for Google to abandon its "unique selling proposition" by compromising the integrity of its SERPs a la Yahoo and MSN.

jomaxx

4:25 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In response to "Internet", it's been observed repeatedly that participation in AdSense does not affect your Google rankings, positively or negatively.

Google rarely does site-by-site adjustments anyways. See the Google News forum for numerous complaints about inaction when specific examples of bad apples and poor-quality results are reported to them.

I suppose there are a couple of extremely slight ways that a site could be affected:
1. The addition of the AdSense code theoretically could affect calculations related to keyword proximity or overall keyword density.
2. Any alternative ad URL will be spidered and indexed by Googlebot unless prohibited, having some small effect on PR.

jouwpagina

5:27 pm on Jul 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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and it wouldn't make sense for Google to abandon its "unique selling proposition" by compromising the integrity of its SERPs a la Yahoo and MSN.

That COULD be why they say it's not true.

I don't think so, actually.

on way to fame

6:21 am on Jul 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hey ....thanks for all your helpful suggestions on this sort of controversial topic.