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Most effective and fastest way to increase PR

as my traffic dropped with Pagerank drop

   
11:48 am on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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During the recent G update. My pr fell to 6 from 5. This has affected my traffic considerably. I have lost a large amount of sessions coming from google. Is there any way I can have my pr back to 6 or so by next month end. I was suggesting to buy links. Is it ok to do so or will my site be penalised for that.

Thanks in advance.

1:42 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think you will find that the latest Pagerank update coincided with the seasonal summer vacation drop in traffic.

Most people here complain that a Pagerank increase does nothing to their rankings or "traffic".

2:57 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do people really think that there is/was a noticeable increase in overall traffic due to "summer vacations". That is a very interesting theory and i am hope you're right. We have not really seen a drop off in traffic, but it would be great to think that things will be picking up later in the year!
3:17 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do people really think that there is/was a noticeable increase in overall traffic due to "summer vacations".

Depends on the topic of your site, I think. My traffic always drops off a lot during the summer. But travel sites, for example, would likely see an increase in traffic during the summer.

Beth

3:23 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For three of my sites I see a drop in traffic over the summer, all are IT related. But for 4 others I see an increase as these are seasonal and travel related, it has been this way for as long as I can remember.

Craig

3:24 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Do people really think that there is/was a noticeable increase in overall traffic due to "summer vacations". That is a very interesting theory and i am hope you're right. We have not really seen a drop off in traffic, but it would be great to think that things will be picking up later in the year!

Depends on what the site is about. If the site is about baseball, then around now will be a high traffic time. If the site sells the sort of stuff commonly given as Christmas gifts, then this will be the slow time of the year.

5:01 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>Is there any way I can have my pr back to 6 or so by next month end.
Its definetly possible.Getting some more inbound links is necessary.If you buy links you have to be careful that you don't make it obvious and be sure that the site you are buying links from is passing pr through its links.
10:26 pm on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi

What is the best way to know if a link is passing Page Rank through its link?

Thanks.

12:13 am on Jun 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Regarding summer traffic patterns, overall media usage drops considerably. It's a well understood, well documented phenomenon.

However as others have posted, seasonal traffic patterns on the Web (and off) vary greatly by industry, and can in some case rise in summer.

Our overall summer traffic drops about 30% each year.

12:59 am on Jun 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Regarding summer traffic patterns, overall media usage drops considerably. It's a well understood, well documented phenomenon.

It has to do with 2 things. In the US and Canada, and to a lesser extent Europe, winter can be very cold, and most people want to stay indoors as much as possible. The other is that the daylight hours are much longer. People tend to want to do things when it is light rather than dark. And, in the US and Canada at least schools take a long break during the summertime. (I dunno if this is true for Europe.) Thus the summertime is ideal for family vacations and such. People on vacations don't spend much time on the Internet.

2:41 am on Jun 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>What is the best way to know if a link is passing Page Rank through its link?
Check to see if the pages that already have links from it have gained pr as a result.
8:34 am on Jun 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And, in the US and Canada at least schools take a long break during the summertime. (I dunno if this is true for Europe)...

In the UK there is a period of six weeks where schools close for the summer. This is when most familys go on holiday.

1:46 pm on Jun 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>What is the best way to know if a link is passing Page Rank through its link?
Check to see if the pages that already have links from it have gained pr as a result.

I am new to this. Thanks for the response Cabbie.
Can you expand on your reply? If I check a website that already has the link how can I tell if it gained pr. I would have to know what their old pr was and probably need to know other variables too. What if I want to convince another website that my site is passing Page Rank? Thanks again!

5:20 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The sessions coming from google have droppped by almost 15 %.
6:56 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is no sure way Getit of knowing whether a site is passing pr with its links.Its all about calculated and educated guesses.
2:33 pm on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>There is no sure way Getit of knowing whether a site is passing pr with its links.Its all about calculated and educated guesses.<<

Thanks Cabbie.

5:34 pm on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe you should check if the drop in PR has affected your ranking in the Google search results. If it did go down as a result, then your traffic drop is most likely due to this. If it didn't change (as is often the case; PR is not that important anymore), then there must be other reasons, i.e. summer vacation etc.

Christian

8:47 pm on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Dispite what Cabbie states, the best way to improve your PR is to get links from pages with a higher PR. Send out 20 requests to exchange links and you should pick up a couple. A portion of that PR will be transfer to you. And yes, buying a link on a page with a higher PR will work. There is nothing wrong with this or that violates Googles policies. But the real question is why are you worrying about PR when you should be worring about ranking. Website traffic doesn't increase or decrease as a result of PR, but is affected by SE ranking.
9:49 pm on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>Dispite what Cabbie states,...

Welcome to WW.Could you please tell me what I stated to dispite you?:)

10:51 pm on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Do people really think that there is/was a noticeable increase in overall traffic due to "summer vacations".

Yes, but it depends on the theme of the site. I manage 3 poetry sites that get pretty good traffic and as soon as school lets out in the summer --zip--there goes the traffic. I suspect it is kids getting ideas for their poetry assignments.

lorel

4:11 pm on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Curious, when does the traffic go back up?

I'm assuming as soon as the back-to-school shopping starts? (When is this?)

5:59 pm on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The thread asks two questions - 1) most effective and 2) fastest way to increase PR. As others here said, the fastest is probably get a few inbound links from high PR pages. But is that really effective? It's putting all your eggs in just a couple of baskets, and highly visible ones at that.

Long term effectiveness comes from lots of links, many of them not even showing on a links: search because maybe they are PR2 or PR3. But if you have a lot of these little links, you're not likely to lose big and fast either.

Also, the PR algorithm doesn't look at "sites", it looks at pages. Your own site also has pages with links, and creating more content pages on your own site can also boost the PR of other pages on your site - as well as giving you more link text to work with.

Not every valuable link comes from another domain - some can come from your own. And more content pages on a site gives you more chances to rank on more searches.