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Blacklistet...IP or Domain and IP?

         

Easyseb

5:20 pm on Jun 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Unfortunately our company and our main domain is blacklisted (PR=grey bar). The subdomains on the same IP are blacklistet too. The subdomains, which are not on the same server still have a high PR.

What can we do?

Change the main site to another Domain or just change the IP and move the site to a diffrent one?

What happens to all of the subdomains e.g uk.domain.com if we do not change anything? Will all be blacklisted, even if they are on a diffrent IP.

Thanks for help,

Easyseb

Easyseb

1:37 am on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nobody can help me? Anybody heard of a similar case?

Thanks,

Easyseb

jcoronella

7:52 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



[bump] - anyone heard of this? I have not.

related? : [webmasterworld.com...]

MHes

9:20 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Hi

I would get some new links into the sub domains to insure they keep getting spidered and maintain some pr, then leave them.

The next step is too move ip, but don't change the content as well. This may save all your links in and get you started again... could take a month or so for google to sort out the change. I would also try and get new links in for the main domain, especially from on theme sites with different ip's.

If all this fails, a new domain on a new ip. I would start this anyway, with fresh new content. Get a site up as soon as possible because it won't rank well for a few months anyway. Add content regularly and get good quality links in which are on theme, these are the ones that will help you rank well in the long run. Go through dmoz in your sector, and one way links are worth getting if you can, but avoid link farms and be wary of buying links!

Good luck.

djgreg

12:41 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Are you absolutely sure you have been blacklisted?
One of my domains also got PR0 this update but it ranks still very well. The site contains 2 subdomains, which are showing PR. All other pages show PR0.
Also the link: command gives zero backlinks while there are about 2000.
The first time I saw that I was shocked and thought of a penalty, but now I think it could be due to a server change we did last week. We moved to a new server with new IP and new Nameservers. There is only this one site on the IP, so it can't be related to cross linking or anything like that.

Did anyone hear that change of IP and/or Nameservers influences PR and backlinks?
greg

jo1ene

2:03 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Quite often, domains share IP's. I should know because one of the backlinks to my site is from a document which discusses the legal and security issues of domains sharing IPs.

They have big lists of IPs and all the domains that share each one. Yes, with a link. I get half a dozen hits from this every month or so. :::snigger:::

Anyway, I'm sure Google knows about shared IPs and doesn't ban just the IP. Maybe a combination though.

sublime1

3:21 pm on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We have three sites all on the same IP (and same WHOIS). Two were killed around the begining of June (no results in SERPs, etc) then got PR0 after the update this week; the third survived and is doing nicely.

Of the two dead ones, one was a corporate home page, the other was our main site. The corporate home page had many (>100) links to the main site on each page. The main site had one link back to corporate on each page.

The surviving site had some links (~10) to the main site on each page, and one to the corporate site on each page.

Could cross-linking (between different domains on the same IP) alone explain this? I can understand why the main site is gone, but why the corporate site? But then why not the surviving site.

In the end, Google's rules are extremely complex, and effectively unknowable. It must be some combination of indicators that gets a site blacklisted. It's too bad that sites like ours, which attempted to carefully follow all of Googles stated rules and live within the letter and spirit of those rules got caught in the net. But that's life :)