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Donny
This has affected SERP's a bit, but not that much - many PR0 pages are still showing good results.
Previously i had noticed PR was gradually reducing as the number of the clicks from the home page increased, but from last September anything more than one click away is PR0.
Overall result is that the site home page PR has dropped as less PR is being recycled from the internal Pages (which would be getting PR from the home page).
I suspect it's googles way of reducing the amount of PR that can be added from Internal pages. I've toyed with a few ideas for increasing PR through the site structure, but think that the website structure should first and foremost favour visitors, not search engines and this is the pragmatic viewto take.
Hey, with all the changes recently is there any other way :)
Donny
Thanks,
Donny
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jothelion
It's an incorrect generalization based on limited data, in other words, it is completely false. Pages many levels deep added and crawled before the late April cutoff show PR just fine. If you aren't showing PR on pages crawled significantly before the cutoff date, then you have issues yourself. These issues may be shared by others, but it is certainly totally false to say everyone (or most sites) have these issues. See glitterball's message #13 for one obvious phenomenon.
Couldn't find the thread but there was a member who was adding pages during the time. He had a record of time/date (down to the hour/min) for each page added. There was a break on April 27th where the pages before that time that were added and had internal links pointing to them received PR.
Different people get crawled and deeplinked at different times, but that was pretty accurate information.
He also underwent some scrutiny in the thread by other members and was pretty lucid in his defense of that date/time update.
I don't have it down to the minute but pages crawled then have PR while everything after May 1st definitely does not.
What you have found to be true for your site or the sites you monitor is not necessarily true for all sites in the Google index.
I see that some pages crawled by then have PR and some pages that were crawled and indexed prior to that date do not have PR on the toolbar. My experience matches what Cabbie has described - sometimes it does seem to take several page rank update cycles for inner level pages to show page rank on the tool bar, even pages that have been crawled and indexed.
My site has been live since mid-February, where it accrued PR in the March or April update (cant remember!?) on ALL the pages.
The following update, left the PR for the pages in the root directory, but anything in sub-directories lost their PR and went to 0. They all still have average places in the SERPs however so I am not too unhappy.
Because of this, I then moved some of my more popular pages to the root directory in the hope of getting PR. In the last update, these pages still did not get PR, but the existing ones in the root directory (About 4 or 5 pages like about, links, contact, etc) still have their PR.
It amazes me that Google cannot give a simple answer for this, it is not as though they are giving away their secret algorithms or giving us the tip on how to get around them!
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You're right in normal circumstances and normal update cycle, but this time it is unique and abnormal. I agree with SteveB, the cutoff is around the end of April 04. None of my page that was published around that time got PR, not only subpages with one or two clicks from homepage but even homepage for new site itself as well.
This is not a coincidence, but the real truth. And these examples shows what is going on very well:
[webmasterworld.com...]
- Created on 25 Apr 04
[webmasterworld.com...]
- Created on 26 Apr 04.
See the difference?
As has been mentioned previously, certain types of URLs have gone from pseudo/guessed pagerank, to showing white bars instead. That is an issue with querystrings.
The lack of any mention of specific behavior and timing of static pages in your posts is typical of arm-waving posts. In contrast, sit2510's post shows the normal/usual behavior and cutoff date. This timing is replicated across the Internet. Again, that doesn't mean some minority of pages may be affected by other factors.
:-)
Pre April 27th, not sure what hour, pages should have PR.
Hey, I said Should!
:)I will Steve,though some may describe you more as a stubborn mule.;)
>>Cabbie, since you can see so well, please just do me the favor of double-checking that it is in fact his tail I am holding!
Hey I am blind too but i can tell you are holding the tail cause I still have my sense of smell.;)
BOT,the OP asked why his subpages had no pr after months.i didn't post until you guys alarmed him by saying he must have issues and that pr"should" have passed.
I was just assuring Dpeper that this is not unusual lately.
Cheers and hugs.
