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An update in backlinks expected soon?

     
5:10 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It feels like its been quite a while since backlinks were last updated and PR updated as well. Doesnt this create a stale directory when all the results remain static, and new information is sandboxed? My question is do most people feel a PR update is expected soon? Has it already happened?
6:29 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Giga,

Yes things seem a bit static to me. Others may have better information but the last PR update I have was on 4/26. I saw a minor change in back links on 5/18.

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I haven't seen either back links or PR changes since Apr 26-27 either. I'd expect to see both very soon, but ya never know with Google unfortunately.

I do see the top search ranking positions changing in my keyword industry just about every other day however....search results seem up to date. My .02 cents.

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7:06 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The sooner the better.

I know my PR has increased a lot in the last month however I would like to know how much. So that I can optimize my internal linking structure.

7:21 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I believe it depends on how you define PR update.

If you are talking the green toolbar PR it was last updated on 3/30 for my site. All pages added on or before 3/30 have the green pr indicator. All pages added (I add 1 - 3 pages per day) do not have it.

If you are talking PR actually used in SERPs I believe it is there (or an estimated value) as of 5/25. All pages on my site, added before 5/25 show up in the serps with reasonable search terms. Example: rate #53 out of 10,200, so if the is no PR (or estimate) they should not show at all (or PR means absolutely nothing).

For SERP reasons, I believe PR (or estimated value) is done whenever the bot finds the page. My main 'directory' pages that link to all my added pages are picked up ever 3 - 4 days, so new links are notice then and the new page is crawled and added to the SERPs with some PR value associated with it.

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Although backlinks and PR are not updated it does not mean that they aren't taken into account internally.
Due to the ranking of my sites I am very sure that backlinks are updated but that these updates are not shown to the public at the moment.
Rankings change every day for my major keywords so for me nothing is static.

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My contact at google assures me that the PR update will begin the instant we remove all the spam from our unranked websites ;)
8:10 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed a backlinks update for my websites and my competitors. Yesterday I had 6 pages of backlinks and today I have 13. The funny thing is it is showing all backlinks, even from pages with PR = 0.

Does anyone have a clue why it is doing this?

1:01 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We saw a significant jump in backlinks and other indicators this week.
1:15 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There are scattered reports of people seeing PR updated for new pages on existing sites, almost as though a certain number are getting updated on the fly while others don't appear to be.

>>other indicators

What type of other indicators?

1:23 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I launched a new site 2 months and had PR within a few days. I know when it updates it will go up...up...up...
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I stated that wrong. We saw a jump in "www.domain.com" links this week. Yahoo backlinks and "www.domain.com" indicators jumped this week too.
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>>I launched a new site 2 months and had PR within a few days

What's happening with new sites though is that they're not ranking for search terms a few months even when they're showing PR. Unless you're seeing something different with yours.

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My guess is probably have a PR and backlink update this weekend.

Reason : Google has a long history of doing this on holiday weekends - probably because it likes to ruin them for all webmasters involved.

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Thats why I ask, because of all the ambiguous comments i read on WebmasterWorld regarding pr updates recently. Some people report changes, while others (the majority?) do not. Is this a new pattern by Google to no longer have global pr updates, rather individual sporadic updates...?
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donot guess, lets come together and start fasting and praying for a PR update, my five new sites are waiting for the green line. Many people have linked it, as it offers quality info.

WHEN will the update happen?, please give me a call when it happens, I am going for a sleep till then.

Thanks
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4:46 pm on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I got about 20% increase in google visits yesterday (Fri on a memorial day weekend). Not visual changes on PR or backlinks though.
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About 30 days ago we double the size of our website with 50 new pages, and have had all the pages get picked up by goggle. I get in the top 10 of the search listings with all of them, but I canít help, but think I would be in the top 3 or 4 of all our major keyword listings if the PR were up to date.

My website dropped to a PR 5 three months ago, which is one of the reasons we added the 50 pages. My hope is that the website will be back to a PR 6 when the update happens. I canít say Iíve seen any jumps from any updates since our PR dropped a few months ago, so I hope your right about this weekend being the one!

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but think I would be in the top 3 or 4 of all our major keyword listings if the PR were up to date.

I think most people agree that the actual PR updates at a different time than when the PR updates on the toolbar. The change in PR on the toolbar just shows us what has already happened some time previously.

Some people think that the PR for a page is updated when google finds a new link to it, I don't think anyone knows for sure.

So, I think you'd see a change in your rankings when the actual PR is updated, not when the toolbar updates.

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2:28 pm on May 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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SERPS have already changed for me, and I as I said previously I noticed a traffic increase. Methinks all is done...just waiting for the official toolbar update.
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Well if the update has happened, and the PR on the tool bar is not going to effect the listings for each keyword phrase anymore we have gone after. Then that is alright.

Being in the top 10 of 90% of our keyword phrases is good enough. :)

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>>We saw a jump in "www.domain.com" links this week.

Gundamknight, you saw an increase this week when using the link: command? And when was the increase in links - rather, how long before you saw the increase was it a lower number?

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There has been no update yet, I repeat there has been no update yet lol! just speculation as usual.

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6:04 pm on May 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I repeat there has been no update yet lol! just speculation as usual.

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11:18 am on May 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm not seeing any PR or backlink updates via the toolbar or via the link: command...

...but I have new pages showing up in the SERPS, even though they are PR0 and no backlinks, often above pages with higher PR. How can that be?!?

Possible theories:
1. On-page content is spot-on for key words.
2. Google assigns a temporary PR to new pages, based on site's PR.
3. Google is updating PR and backlinks continuously, but we don't see it publicly.

Thoughts?

12:33 pm on May 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

This is fairly nomal behaviour for google, new sites can get indexed pretty quick sometimes and then disappear again down the serps or vanish completely.
Normally 2 months down the line the site will become stable as more links to it are found from the crawl.

Bek.

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I've recently added a giant resources directory into one of my websites -

How long do you expect it will take before PR appears on these pages? Lots of them have outgoing links to external websites.

Do Google take a while to assign PR to completely new webpages?

Steve

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Yes, It can take up to 2 months for pr to show on a new page.
Do you have links into the new page yet?

Bek

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Certainly not seeing any updates here. I've got 3 sites I have been putting alot of effort into over the last month, one is now first in Yahoo for its' primary KW's and 7th in G, the others are moving up but a link command search in G brings NOTHING. Alltheweb seems to be picking up the links alot better.
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I am just seeing a pr update now in Australia
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