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Google PR Update?

New pages have PR this Saturday

         

jimh009

10:30 pm on May 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just noticed that a bunch of new pages on my site now have PR (on the toolbar). Sign of a upcoming toolbar PR update, perhaps?

anallawalla

6:51 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can't be bothered looking up data centre IPs but the site I saw as PR4 from Australia was PR0 to a US viewer, then the next day it changed to PR3, then PR4. It is now PR4 from a third country. A few days ago it was PR<1.

troels nybo nielsen

7:13 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is it about geography then? I don't see any PR-update here in Denmark. Some of the pages I have checked are hosted in the USA.

wanna_learn

7:38 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ARE WE STILL SO MUCH BOTHERED ABOUT PR?
I have read senior WW members posting here that PR is not much into play now to impact SERP.

troels nybo nielsen

7:52 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> ARE WE STILL SO MUCH BOTHERED ABOUT PR?

Most likely depends on who you are. I'm not. And I have not read anything in this thread indicating that the other posters are. But I reserve the right to occasionally check the PR of some pages. PR is a usefull tool if you interpret it cautiously.

steveb

7:57 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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PR matters to people who know how to use it.

<and also some who don't but that is another story>

Marcia

8:49 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nowadays, PR is also a necessary commodity. It still is necessary to get inbound links, and to try to get recips without having half-way decent PR on a site makes things considerably harder. Let's face it - it's far easier to negotiate with a PR4 page than a PR1 or PR2.

That certainly justifies people being concerned with when PR will update, particularly if it's new site just starting out. Some people *still* go about getting their links the old-fashioned way. For those folks it matters - the ones who are not manufacturing their own. ;)

AjiNIMC

9:06 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Marcia , thats the truth, without a PR4 site, its tough to get backlinks, thats a naked truth, Still the webmasters speak the PR language and it will be there for many years to come. I cant run after every person who says , we only add the sites with PR4 or higher.

anallawalla wrote,

I can't be bothered looking up data centre IPs but the site I saw as PR4 from Australia was PR0 to a US viewer, then the next day it changed to PR3, then PR4. It is now PR4 from a third country. A few days ago it was PR<1.

I am also facing the same problem, my site is sometimes PR5 and sometimes PR2, my site cant be PR2 at any cost, we have some very good incoming links and we have added few more. So whats happening, is it another hard update?

Whats happening , please tell me, I am worried , SERP is still unaffected.

Aji

pmkpmk

10:00 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A few of my pages deeper into the pagetree have DROPPED in PR. They used to have 3-5, and now for them the PR-bar is all grey.

The higher level pages have remained the same.

What is funny though is that I just recently did some direct linking from high-PR-pages within the same site to those pages in question in order to birng them from PR3 up to PR5. It seems to have had the contrary effect...

Andrew Thomas

10:12 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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my PR has gone from PR4 - to nothing! over the weekend. Hope it changes soon!

Nice :(

wanna_learn

10:28 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"ARE WE STILL SO MUCH BOTHERED ABOUT PR?"

The Keyword over here was - SO MUCH

I know SEOs would always be behind that Green Stuff as long as its there on Toolbar and there is even 1% chance that google is using it here and there.

but i mean SO MUCH :-)

steveb

10:52 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Using 216.239.53.99 seeing new green directory icons on the toolbar. Also, the site now appears when searching the Google Directory, though it isn't listed in the HTML pages yet.

Also seeing a bunch of greybars that return to normal after clicking links to the page a few times.

No PR changes though.

troels nybo nielsen

11:58 am on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wanna_learn, I got your point in first attempt and I still cannot see that there is any basis for it in this thread. This thread is not very musch about the importance of PR. Instead it's about a possible UPDATE.

IMHO the most important aspect of a PR update is that a lot of new (and some old) pages will get a PR after having had none. Making the step from no PR to actually having a PR of any value is - again IMO - symptomatic of a general change in the status of a page.

I have about 1000 pages and I estimate that more than half of them right now do not have a PR because they are new or because they have been moved to a new address. Many of them will get a PR now which makes this particular PR update fairly interesting for me.

Mozart

12:05 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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wanna_learn:

So much? No. Do you remember - or have ever seen - the SciFi movie Soylent Green? Then you'd know that that green stuff is our life blood ;-)

No, seriously, a little bit of green lightens up your day, but aside of that it is only interesting to know that Google visits pages with higher PR more often, so changes you make get into the index faster. And links from such higher PR pages to other pages get detected faster and therefore result in the new linked to pages being indexed faster as well.

That's all. For me at least.

Mozart

[edited for spelling mistake]

wanna_learn

12:22 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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am not noticing any PR change in India.
;-)

Lets keep thread on topic.

WebFisher

2:53 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1. In IE, if you have the google bar running, search for your site.
2. Click on your link.
3. Check your temp internet folder for something similar to the following (where mysite is generic for your site in question).

h**p://66.102.9.104/search?client=navclient-auto&googleip=O;66.102.9.104;406&ch=62087353465&freshness_check=49cZQZd8f-KQpG7IeZGWK&dq=mysite&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=0&querytime=KE&features=Rank&q=info:http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emysite%2Ecom%2F

Fclark thank you for the hint!
It obviously seems to show different results for one of my urls in 66.102.9.104 & [64.233.161.99...]

fclark

3:39 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Marcia:
Amen! Recips are easier w/ PR.

WebFisher:
you're welcome. Now, if I could just figure out how to make those grey boxes appear in my posts...

WebFisher

3:59 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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the grey boxes close with [/quote] pseudotag
and begin with [quote]

Prash_seo

5:20 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I have not seen an increase in PR as such on any of our websites. However, these was a drop from 2nd to 5th position for a couple of websites.

What does this incur?

Prash_seo

troels nybo nielsen

5:34 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Prash_seo

> What does this incur?

Difficult to say. Positions in SERPs keep changing all the time for all kinds of reasons.

billygg

6:31 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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im not seeing PR update as well, my new website has been around for a while now, with at least 3 links in from PR 5 sites, still 0 for me

bekyed

7:25 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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im not seeing PR update as well, my new website has been around for a while now, with at least 3 links in from PR 5 sites, still 0 for me

Your website can have 3 links in from pr5 sites but how many links are on the page is what counts.
If a pr5 page has, lets say 100 links, this will spread very little pr to your site.

How long as your website been around?

Bek

billygg

8:55 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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my buddy has an rss feed site with only 2 pages as the total site, main page, and rss feed page, with tons of content, and he is linking to my site, which is in the general discussion of rss feeds, so i know i will be picking up some PR, he linked to me about a month ago, so i should def be seeing some PR out of the next update, plus my other incoming links :) dont worry, i will get some PR

AjiNIMC

1:12 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just waiting for the update to happen, why is so much tension this time on a PR update, I can smell google cooking some bad dish.

shady

3:47 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Marcia: shady, about when do you think it changed, how long ago?

Sorry not to reply sooner! The link change was requested on 9th April and I think it was updated about 1 week afterwards. I have been waiting until now for this PR to transfer.

However, I do have other PR0 sites which I would have expected to have received PR in this update and nothing has changed, so it seems like a rather odd update (if indeed it is completed).

Regards
Shady

anallawalla

5:18 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ARE WE STILL SO MUCH BOTHERED ABOUT PR?
I have read senior WW members posting here that PR is not much into play now to impact SERP.

Not bothered as such, but a sudden appearance of PR for the first time is an indicator that the site has advanced within the Google indexing system. It's a reassurance that one is moving in the right direction.

micsten

10:41 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just waiting for the update to happen, why is so much tension this time on a PR update, I can smell google cooking some bad dish.

*taps fingers on desk in anticipation*

shady

3:56 pm on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's a reassurance that one is moving in the right direction

Absolutely!

It appears that the PR update that I mentioned earlier has now reverted back! The PR now shows on my page which currently has no inward links!

How bizarre!

Regards
Shady

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