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Thanks!
I'm beginning to think that they're not going to be updating PageRank anymore.
Can anyone prove me wrong?
Your guess is as good as mine but I'm fairly certain it won't be much longer now... make that hoping :)
Simon.
Did notice that my meta-tag revisit request was 21 days and changed it to 7 days. Bots still visit daily. Googleguy - does the PR of a page affect it's backlink value to other sites?
Rgds
Calum
I heard that at PubCon, DaveN suggested that Google should only update the visible PR and link: data once a quarter or so...
Is that a hint as to a new policy or are you just messing? (somebody had to ask!) :)
He suggested a lot of other stuff too. :)
Dave, can I send you a couple of sites to get ranked?
(waiting for PR updates internal PR4 back links and external backlinks forever: is just a game of chess ... with a dead uncle :P)
One way is to invest a little more time in checking how many sites link into site X.
Here's a great site for doing just that:
[marketleap.com...]
So this gives us the quantity, but says little to nothing about the quality of links from this site. I've read on WebmasterWorld that Google will only show a backlink with PR's of 3 or higher (any confirmations or refutations?)
If this is true, then you want sites showing a high amount of links through G (rather than other SE's), as that indicates site X has quality links.
An easy rule of thumb is to get links from educational and governmental institutions. G's definition of an 'authority' site includes these.
I'd love to hear your experiences and authority readings (no speculation please).
Rgds, Calum
correct and like most I'm still waiting to see an update!
So what signs do you look for to spot a webmaster with an aggressive links campaign?
Here are some ideas, please add:
1. A thought out directory structure (as opposed to mere alphabetised lists).
2. Relevant links, rather than random.
3. Links pages no more than 2 clicks from their home page.
This is assuming they are building reciprocol links. What you'll miss with the above logic are sites writing quality content and other value for visitors to link to. So perhaps best is to start with a G search for your key search phrase and work your way down the list. Modelling what G rewards...
Perfectly. The problem to the small business here is quite frankly finding the time to do all this imo. Googles recent years is now forcing you to employ "an aggresive" linking policy.
Now when you do ... of course they can then slash your serps because of all the quick new work.
I personally on the 10 sites i work on and manage have put up link pages to 50 or 100 sites in a week of dedicated work only to be penalized for linking up so quickly to sites that do not link back. Whats that all about?
The idea of getting any number of webmasters to link up to you at the same time you link up to them is a dream that quite frankly just doesnt come true. No matter how hard you work .. some bod at google just desides they dont like you and blam your dead.
I know alot say that there is no conspiracy surrounding google and it is all done by software but honestly.
I know of several very high ranking sites in my industry that have single link pages with several 100's on links on the same page and yet .. no penalties ever. If we are suppose to read addvice fomr the source and play fair .. eg you link to me i link back with less than 100 links per page blah blah google blah .. why dont they put there money where thier advise pages are?
I have and do still listen to what they are saying but to no avail. Yet others dont, dont play fair and get away with it.
Conclusion .. conspiracy.
<waits another 2 months paciently for a pr update>
So how about this scenario: if the navigation bar included the main links/directory page (1 click from home). Then the page linking to you was found on this links/directory page (2 clicks from home). Are you saying that you'll not link to this site?
Assuming PR still counts for something (which I'm becoming increasingly dubious of). If the home is a 5, the links/directory will probably also be a 5, and the page linking to your page will be a 4. So you will be turning down a page with a PR of 4 and may be relevant to your site and perhaps has very many links into it on what research? I struggle with most posts on WebmasterWorld where the person making them either doesn't explain their foundation research or is just reacting on a whim of something they have read. Please clarify.
Thx, Calum
I heard that at PubCon, DaveN suggested that Google should only update the visible PR and link: data once a quarter or so... ;)
Googleguy... are you kidding? Visible or not this will make Google look slower and less timely than the new competition. How can that possibly benefit Google?
Just my opinion, but on the surface that makes it appear to me that Google is technically unable to keep up or that he has problems?
Can you clarify?
It's actually not for all the sites, though. I have noticed that Google has been updating PR for certain sites (domains that are going to expire soon are being given a PR0 shortly before they expire).
It's actually not for all the sites, though. I have noticed that Google has been updating PR for certain sites (domains that are going to expire soon are being given a PR0 shortly before they expire).
About to expire? You mean they have not expired and Google is changing the PR even though they are still live and could be renewed at anytime before they expire. Sorry, but I find this hard to believe. Could you point me to some documentation on this subject? Thanks.
<update> I remember a few months ago, The Washington Post website expired and was removed by Netsol. Even when the page wouldn't come up, the PR was still present.
