Reverted Back To Old Index?

[swanweb]

Hi all,

I have changed the titles of my pages to be more descriptive. Google has searched my website nearly 5 days in a row. It picked up these new titles as it was only adding 1 or 2 pages a day to the index. I checked and it had the new titles and the updates to the text, news etc. But when i checked it yesterday it has reverted the pages back to the titles that it prevoisly had.

I have also noticed that while it was indexing these new pages i could see when it last crawled the site e.g. 29 Feb 2003 - what does this mean as some sites have this some dont. It was showing the date it crawled the site when it was showing NEW page titles but now its reverted back to the OLD pages it doesnt show the date last crawled apart from the main page.

I cant figure out what is going on, my PR is still 0 aswell and well i have about 100 sites linking to me with at least PR4. Its all Weird. Is google still doing PR?.

Please Help.

Matt

[steveb]

"I believe that around Florida the fresh pages started to stick and didn't revert back."

Caches have always been reverting back. When you get freshed every day you don't notice it. Perhaps it is more active again since Florida, that could be, but it is a certainty that caches have always been reverting.

There were plenty of threads here in the fall, before Florida about this. I'm still watching a page with an August cache that it has been reverting to continually since then, even though it has been crawled many times since then.

[Schneewittchen]

i have 5 websites, only 1 of 5 have a new cache version listet with all his new pages. im confused, the pages with higher PR (5 or 6) - the google fresh bot come 3 times a day - still have the old index at G and new pages are not listed, but have been spidered at last weeks. my logfiles says, google must have ~7000 subpages in his index, but i only see actualy ~340. sometimes, for 5 or 6 hours, i see the new subpages, then reverted back to old index for the most time. the only one with the lowest PR (1) is listed durably with all new subpages....i think, if google see massive changes (many new sites and many 404 errors for old files they ever have been exist in his index) on a website with a higher PR- G try ever and ever to find the old site and do not list the new content of the site for a long while. it is positiv, when your website not working correct (eg MySQL-errors, hacks, programming errors etc...) what you think about this? how long we have to wait for the new sites?
sorry for my bad english, hope you understand my arguments and questions...

[george123]

I strongly believe the Google's algo is just genious,the top ten SERPS are giving what the user wants ,i have realized that G puts in top 10 2 pages from the same URL ,the index and the related second page ,i have seeing that with my pages,ranking at the top 10 with 2 URL's at the first 10 SERPs.(by the way my site is on the top 100.000 of Alexa). I recon Google is not anymore depending on backlinks but on relevance of content and most importent TRAFFIC .About 40 of my subpages are crowled every single day and i mean pages with strong key words,you will ask me why...well ,because those pages have content and relevant key words that brings a huge traffic because they are giving to the user what he wants ,in other words Google is doing great.

[Hissingsid]

Hi george123,

So next time they change the algo and your site gets dropped you will no doubt think Google is still wonderful ;)

IMHO some SERPs look good. These are the ones I watch that were badly affected at the Florida update. I'm happy with the others because I'm in the top three on all of the ones I'm targetting but I have to admit that much of the stuff that is on page one alongside me is auto generated directory crap.

I'm not seeing the reversion to old index. The SERPs I watch look pretty stable and long may this continue.

Best wishes

Sid

[george123]

(So next time they change the algo and your site gets dropped you will no doubt think Google is still wonderful ;)
i survive florida,austin and brandy,i dont warry.

[Liane]

George,

No site is bullet proof. My site remained at the top for 2 years and through many trials and tribulations experienced by others. I was untouched.

The Florida update killed my business for 3 months. The damage was devastating.

I am back on top again ... but don't be so naive as to think your site is untouchable. It just isn't so and you would be wise to be ready for that eventuality.

[caterpillargrl]

I noticed something similar in the last few days. I added a new section to my website in late Jan & was optimizing for specific keywords. When google crawled it in early Feb, my site was listed on page 6 or so. Tues/Wed of this week, I noticed a new cached page of my site from Mar 1 located on page 1 for the optimized terms!

Today, unfortunately google seems to have reverted back to the previous results. When I search for my site, the cached page is again the Feb result... so I'm guessing they are still switching back and forth from the new to the old index?

My PR for the site when listed both on pg 6 & the 2 day pg 1 was 0 for both... it shows 'no page rank information available' today.

[Schneewittchen]

@john
i see you have the same problem with G. G crawled my pages and show only a cache version 1 or 2 month old in serps. since 3 days google show no cache-date in his serps and the cached page is more than 6 weeks old :-/ i dont know why, i dont know what is the problem with my site :-/ is it still so with your page?

[swanweb]

Hi all,

Finally google has decided to cache my pages properly. I am now seeing better results and indexes, also gogole is still crawling the website daily and picks up changes nicely.

Although now the problem has moved onto pagerank. This wonderfull new feature google added to the internet commuinity. The site is crawled daily and is content rich, loads of high PR sites that are related pointing to it and guess what PR of 0/10, ermm whats going on ere then?

[steveb]

Pagerank hasn't been updated for anyone since January 26th. It's not because they don't like you.

[bluemi]

Talking about outdated sites, I see one site suddenly coming up high for one of my searches. This site is on a domain that is dead since about two years as the company went bankrupt. Relevancy? Freshness? If that's Google's understanding of it, no thanks...

[allanp73]

Google is definitely not updating as quickly as it once had. I made several changes to an index page (strong pr4)of a client's site over two weeks ago and it is just now updated in Google's index. Other sites same thing. It used to take only 2-3 days now it has become very slow. May be Google will go back to a monthly update ;)

[Larryhat]

Hello: I'm a newbie so forgive me if this isn't
exactly on the thread.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why Google
still lists zero content Parked Sites, with Zero
Content, high in their SERPS for any/many given
search phrases.

As I wrote to Google, its a no brainer.

Somebody searching for the sex-lives of spiders
finds him or herself on a generic WebF*** page
with nothing but unrelated commercial junk.

I acually got a response! Something like:
" Google is a self healing mechanism. Now
please go away.. "

I understand the need for secrecy with their
algorithms, this prevents unfair spamming.

I simply cannot understand why G refuses to
derate zero content pages. Their refusal to
do so raises some highly troubling questions.

Sorry for the rant.

- LH

[4eyes]

in other words Google is doing great.

George - believe it or not the world does not judge Google's performance by how well your site is doing.

Google has just taken a mini step back towards florida.

In one phrase I monitor there are 2.4 million results and the top two are a bulletin board post and frameset pages with no content and no "noframes" tag. Its not even down to page rank, these are both interior pages at the end of a long url path.

Conversations with my SEO buddies have thrown up a load of similar nonsense results - just not as bad as florida yet.

They are having problems again - noticing that your site has not been damaged by the problems does not mean Google is doing well, it just means you are not looking hard enough.

Try comparing a range of results with Yahoo - its looking far better than Google at the moment.

[swanweb]

But doesnt yahoo use google technology to produce search results, surely this will mean the network of websites that are based on the results thrown up by google are suffering?.

[pmac]

>a mini step back towards florida<

Sure looks that way to me.

[raptorix]

Don't know or it has to do with this, but i have a new site, its up since 10 days ago, after 6 days we got our first hits from google, since today we are completely dissapeared from the index :(

Is this a normal situation?

I also have another question, the googlebot visited our site from 7 till 12 march, but after that its disapeared, does somone have a clue why he stopped visiting us?

[george123]

<No site is bullet proof> first sorry if I was a bit naive my site is not bullet proof, but about bullet proof sites I have seen a site the last 2-3 years at the same key word at #1 that page has survived all the updates , I have check that site ,the guy has a factory of sites and over 300 URLS all copy paste title keywords description with the only change from blue widget to red widget and so on ,about rich content well forget it but he is relevant to the content, so he has more the 6.000 back links he is in G and ODP directory and PR 5.Why I say that is that G in some main key SERPS is using old pages with lots of back links and in the top 10 results the 5 at list are in G ,ODP directory that means the sites are very relevant because are manually chosen, about updates the old and directory pages will survive any update ,that is what I believe.

[tigger]

>but i have a new site, its up since 10 days ago, after 6 days we got our first hits from google, since today we are completely dissapeared from the index

it's called everflux do a search for it you will find out it's quite normal

[Liane]

I tried to explain it was "everflux" a couple of pages back. See the Glossary [webmasterworld.com]

[johnser]

>>>>a mini step back towards florida

I see quite a substantial impact last Fri/Sat for large sites PR5+ (with decent links) & with all pages having the same template structure & built in a semi-automated fashion.

Can anyone verify this is accurate?
J