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Like lots of others there hasn't been much Google log activity recently and not all my logs are updated daily, so there isn't much scope for finding a pattern.
>> Knowing how or why people here know is largely irrelevant
Black Magic or what. Or stable whipsers from Google. Isn't there a better way than that? We need to plan ahead.
Do page ranks always change slightly before an update?
People on this board all seem to know when updates are going to take place. How do get to find this out? Do Google tell you or are you making well informed guesses?
I dunno Rudy... I read it as he was wondering if people here somehow know when updates are coming. Before Dominic, last spring, that was true; there was a predictable regularity for a long time. Then it changed, and now no one really knows.
Snookered, Google has been in flux for the last few months, so maybe what you see here is people, watching sites and serps like a hawk, reporting changes within minutes of them happening, whenever anything is truly afoot.
ADDED: Should've read msg#8...
What steveb said.
[edited by: Stefan at 10:28 pm (utc) on Mar. 1, 2004]
2. Ranking algorithms
5. Directory Listings
They all occur at different times.
PageRank is usually never less than 3-4 weeks. Backlinks 2-3 weeks. Data depends on your PageRank, often it is daily. Ranking algorithms, depends, we've seen 3 in 4 months now - that's a new record. Directory listings have taken months recently.
However, when is the last time you went to a bank for a loan and they said: "Yes you can have one, but we can't tell you when". ?
Banks have just as much data to manipulate as Google.
Googlebot has been spidering the hell out of my site, and it has been noted by others as spidering them alot as well. SERPs are showing fresh dates on nearly all sites 1-20 (in my sector).
With this you could probably bank on some changes coming in the next few weeks. Seems like before an update, they spider the index extra fresh so that changes applied can be measured with the latest data.
Wouldn't it be more helpful if Google themselves let us know?
It's not in Google's interest to let us know when an update is going to happen. Remember as webmasters we anwser to the search engines, not the other way around ;)
I thought it was a problem with my site, but it appears many in my area are experiencing the same problem. All of the fresh tags I saw were for index pages, nothing deeper. It doesn't make sense that Google has the capability to crawl the pages and can't update their database.
I hear others say they are seeing fresh tags within one day, but that's not what I'm seeing in my industry.