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Blacklisted Forever?

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Snookered

3:43 am on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone,

I've come to the conclusion that I've been Blacklisted or at least heavily penalized because I have a PR0 and only show up in Google if I search for my own domain.

In addition, Googlebot hasn't visited at all this month.

I'm not sure why - I'm certainly no spammer or manic salesman. Maybe it was some over enthusiastic use of keywords in my titles - I can't be sure.

In your experince what is the likelihood of regaining a position and visits from Googlebot, or am I washed up?

Thanks.

ThomasB

9:32 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Snookered, welcome to WebmasterWorld!

If you get results for "site:yoursite.com -ffdf" you're definetly still in. Do you have a grey PR bar or is it white? Since when is it like that?

bhartzer

10:40 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From what I understand (I've talked to various Google employees at various times), there's really only a 90 day penalty or "ban" on domains, and it's applied manually. You can appeal, and get back in the index. If you can find your domain in the index, then you're not banned.

Chicken Juggler

10:51 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)



Get more backlinks.

ThomasB

10:55 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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there's really only a 90 day penalty or "ban" on domains, and it's applied manually

wrong. There are also automatic penalties for crosslinking out there. Duplicate content is also some kind of automated penalty.

There are also longer-lasting penalties for example if you put p0rn stuff on your site and try to get traffic by keywords mostly used by children.

bhartzer

11:00 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, ThomasB, you're correct. I should have said "ban" and not penalty.

There are penalties, but you can still find your url in the index somehow. It's a manual ban that is put on.

Snookered

1:47 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the welcome!

ThomasB the bar is completely white. I altered the titles mid to late January and in the latest update around February 2, I seemingly dropped out of the index until I searched for the domain.

If I've only incurred a penalty and not an all-out ban, how can I re-trigger Googlebot visits?

Thanks again.

Marcia

1:55 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>I have a PR0 and only show up in Google if I search for my own domain.

What was your PR before, was it just the homepage that was in the index before or more of the site, and how many links do you have pointing to the site?

a_chameleon

2:13 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My site's gone, too.. I used the site:mysite.com -ffdf search and found all the pages, at least the ones there last time gbot visited. :(

The site doesn't appear *anywhere in SERP's, and it's heavily alt tag/title tag optimized. (Could be trouble)

Is there a search i can use to see if the site is _anywhere at all_ inside Google's SEERp's of any kind.. .?

.

Snookered

6:03 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>What was your PR before, was it just the homepage that was in the index before or more of the site, and how many links do you have pointing to the site?

I don't know what the PR was (!) I only downloaded the toolbar when things went wrong (In the past I've mainly done non profit stuff). It's possible that it could have been 0.

Only the index page was listed. I only had a few external links and they are no longer listed in the link: .

Overall, the most disconcerting thing is the way Googlebot has stopped visiting. To me that is a very bad sign.

ThomasB

6:47 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My site's gone, too.. I used the site:mysite.com -ffdf search and found all the pages

Then your site isn't gone, just bad ranked. Try to get better content, links and read the Florida/Austin threads and try to get some solutions for the filters applied in these updates.

aaronrand

5:38 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)



my sites are gone, gone.
how can i appeal now that the sites have been cleaned up and crosslinks removed?

BeeDeeDubbleU

3:03 pm on Feb 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My site is gone too but all my pages are still in with a site:www.mydomain.com. The Googlebot does not visit me but my PR5 remains stable. Has anyone ever had this happen to them and then recovered? If so what action was taken? Do I need to resubmit or whatever?

cabbie

7:17 pm on Feb 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You can have pages indexed in google but nowhere in the serps.This is a common penalty.(for me anyway)
It can be the result of at least a few things that I know of.
One is you have been flagged as being a member of a bad neighbourhood.Check out all the sites that you link to and see that they are all indexed by google.
(Google doesn't penalise you for linking to a banned site unless you put that link up after the site has been banned.)
Also check out the sites that link to you because despite what Google says you can get penalised by the links to you.See that no one has any hidden links to you.
The most common reason I have found though for nonappearance in serps is that Google has detected that most or all of your links are from a nest.If your PR is a result of links from other sites that you control and if that is easily traceable then you have alot of work to do to get back in google's favour.
The good news is that you can come back from this penalty.