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I'm trying to figure out why, and what to do.
I thought if it was banned, the PR would go to 0 and spidering by Googlebot would cease. But all the pages have retained their PR (including the newly added pages) and the site was VERY heavily spidered by Googlebot in January, and then lightly in this first week of Feb.
Having been spidered in January, I thought surely the site would reappear at the end of the month, but here we are Feb 8th and it's still not in the index.
My traffic (=ad revenue) has dried up so I've gotta do something, but I can't figure out what.
joined:May 28, 2002
There is talk that this is all a "process" for a bigger, better Google
There will be always 'talk' about a bigger and better Google or another search engine for that matter :) which happened from the beginning when the internet becomes popular and will continue as long as there is such thing as internet.
But, if we are talking about bigger and better process. Why release a half bake process when it's not ready yet?
The disappearing site act was never a major problem before with the 'old process' and most often those that have their site disappeared from the index have something to do with not following guidelines.
Why change a stable process in favor of a unstable process? That doesn't sound logical to me.
I'm in favor of change for the bigger and better Google but the transition have to be smooth and tested well before releasing any changes to the public until then talk of a better process is just fantasizing.
joined:May 28, 2002
The pages are NOT duplicated, but do share some major elements.
So, best differentiate the sites some more before sending Google "the friendly email".
So my conclusion is that its a "duplicate content" issue between an early incarnation (site A) and a more advanced version (site B) of the same material.
Did you change the URLs when you upgraded the site? Are the old (duplicate) pages still in Google's index? If so, you want them out. Put noindex in robot.txt files on all of the old pages, or 301 redirects to the equivalent new content.
Finally, do you really mean "disappears from Google", or just not ranking well in the SERPs? If they have PR they are probaly still in the index. Enter the exact URL of a missing page into Google to find out, or do the
to see all of your pages that are in the index.
We're talking of two sites with different URLs, an origianl and an upgraded/expanded version of the same material where the pages are not duplicates of the original, but do repeat some material.
On the site that went down, the PR is still there, and Google is spidering like crazy, but absolutely zero traffic from Google. Nada.
It seems it's not a matter of not ranking well, but of not in the index. Substituting "my-domain" for the actual URL which I used in the Google searchbox:
I tried [my-domain.com...] in the Google searchbox and got
"Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.my-domain.com"
Also, following your suggestion, I tried
in the Google searchbox and got in each case
"Your search - ................ -dsadsadsa - did not match any documents"
Since the site dissappeared Dec 29 and didn't resurface Jan 29, I'm assuming I've got a problem.
From what you've said I don't think you've done enough to earn a duplicate content penalty, and that shouldn't get your site removed completely anyway.
It might be temporary. I'd say wait a bit if you can afford to and, as you say, work on differentiating the old and new sites some more (if you must keep the old).
If you do decide to ditch the domain name and start with a fresh one, make sure all your current site's content is out for good; noindex, nofollow. I wouldn't recommend it though - if you can't identify the problem it might happen again.
- BTW have you done searches for big chunks of your content to see if anyone else is stealing your content?
1. All old links indexed as a custom 404 page (there is only 1 page in the whole directory
2. All content now moved and part of the new and improved larger site I am working on?
And I presume Google is still spidering the site because they expect me to remove dup content from the site.
So where do I send the "please reinstate me" email to Google?