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skirope

6:03 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
I have a fairly new site, launched in October. I read lots on here before putting it up. I parsed the whole site and have over 250 pages indexed. Each parse has the KW for that page in the link as does the title and the header. For most searches under the KW on detail pages I rank on top 10.

However, my homepage which I have all links coming to with anchor text as my KW, I have KW in my title and in my header and in the body of my text (but only once in the body). I used to be at #5 for that KW but recently I have disappeared completely. Could it be because I am not having enough KW density or because I have part of the KW in my domain? It is hard to take the KW out of domain as it is the name of a Country.

Thanks for any help!

tigger

7:15 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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your not alone, I've got a site the same the index page has vanished, I'm just hoping after the next crawl it gets pulled back in

mikeshen

7:51 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yeah,u both r not alone,I am the third one
Hope back again,god help me

union_jack

8:10 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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skirope,

How is your links exchange set up?

and how is your Domain hosted?

I am convinced this is the key to vanishing index pages!

tigger

8:37 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't think so, most of my sites are set up the same none have had their index page dropped except this one last month

union_jack

10:07 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would be interested to hear if when your index pages reappear, if they feature for there main keyword or the index page is at the bottom of the SERPs.

tigger

10:36 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I prefer "when" but I'll let you know

Hissingsid

11:08 am on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Is the index page called index.html?

The links back to this from within your site, do they have the fully qualified url including the file name or do they just point to your domain root.

The reason I ask is because I have noted a correllation between having index pages called something other than index.html (like default.asp or index.php or default.htm) and those pages either not being hit or improving in ranking.

You could hypothesise that IF google is using a themes based element in its new algo then this means that the site is being looked at not just the individual page and the root index should be different from the other pages in the site.

If this is right then there's a bug in the system because the algo should count all default names equal but as a server administrator can set up the server to deliver any name he chooses as the default page it may be impossible for Google to easily decide which is the root default file. The result is that minority default names may, if the hypothesis is correct, be given an advantage over the more standard index.html.

Remember just after Florida hit everyone was noting that there were no domain roots in SERPs well this could be the reason.

Best wishes

Sid

webdude

1:07 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Sid,

How's it going?

The result is that minority default names may, if the hypothesis is correct, be given an advantage over the more standard index.html.

I tried this and got a completely different result. I changed my index.php to kw1kw2.asp and was dropped within 4 days. I then changed it back and popped back to the original position. So I am not sure that the naming of the home page is relevant.

I would be interested to see if others have tried your hypothesis with different results. There always seems to be an exception to the rules now days. Any takers?

Hissingsid

2:52 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would be interested to see if others have tried your hypothesis with different results. There always seems to be an exception to the rules now days. Any takers?

Hi Webdude,

I'm doing great thanks, SERPs down the toilet but no one died as a result (I seriously hope) so I keep smiling and am trying to find out where to buy shares in Yahoo. How are you doing?

What I was meaning is that index.html is treated different to all other forms including your index.php. I just see this as something that they are perhaps stupid enough to do in the same vein as treating subdomain1.domain.com and subdomain2.domain.com as two different domains with different weights given t their cross links than are given to pages within the same domain. Or GoogleGuys interjection that he couldn't understand why anyone would want to use XML when HTML was perfectly good enough. Just examples of Google's understanding of many Web issues being somewhat different to the perceived reality.

Has anyone got a theory as to why the algo change has generated so many theories. ;)

Best wishes

Sid