Does Site Rank Avoid The Filter?

Need PR6 or greater to survive

[Tiebreaker]

Looking at the sites above me in the SERPS, I am pretty convinced that site rank (and links from external sites, rather than internal links) is very important now. My competitors have identical SEO techniques - the only reason I can see that they have survived and I am buried, is that my site is only PR5

It seems that a site rank of 6 or more is necessary to survive. It would be interesting to know if anyone out there has got a PR6 or greater site that has been buried in the latest couple of updates.

My guess is that PR7 or more guarantees total safety, no matter what you do - and PR6 works as long as you don't over optimize crazily - PR5 or less, forget it!

I think it is time to start working on some high quality inbound liks, to get myself up to at least a PR6 - yes, I know I should have been doing this anyway - but now it is costing me money!

[ThomasB]

My guess is that PR7 or more guarantees total safety

Unfortunately not. I don't know what triggers the Filter, but PR doesn't help. I'm watching some PR 7 and 8 sites which also got filtered.

[bluenile]

PR is only a factor than determines the ranking of a webpage on SERPs. Other things like keyword density, actual importance of the searched word in relation to the page content etc also play a important part in the webpage position in SERPs.

[Chelsea]

My site's a PR7, and still got hit (although it has never totally disappeared except on certain specific highly commercial terms.)

[flobaby]

Mine's a PR6 and it stayed steady. But then, the subject matter isn't one of those huge categories, mine's pretty niche.

[webdude]

While I think that asking whether PR matters on avoiding the filter, my contention is that PR is not that big of a factor for this.

I have a PR4 site that was definitely affected by the filter, but after some tweeking, we are still on page 1 after disappearing totally. This is for a very comepetative 2 word phrase. In fact, after sudying what is being returned for these SERPs, I have found sites that have a range of PR from 2 to 5 AND nothing above a PR5 on the first page. These results return 1,380,000 in the SERPs.

I would tend to look more at density and the title of pages rather then PR.

Just my 2 cents...

[Tiebreaker]

Thanks for the info ....

Well it's back to the drawing board then! For the life of me I can't see why the sites above me have survived - site rank seemed to be the only answer.

[agent10]

My thoughts are looking at travel is that if it is seen by g as an"authority site" with pr8 it seems to be untouched on certain factors that other sites fall down on.

[nevetS]

I have a PR6 that disappeared, but it was just recently upgraded to a PR6.

Title and keyword density don't seem to have any affect on my pages anymore because I have more relevancy than all of the pages in the top of the SERPs.

I'm in a very niche market, and all of the sites that are relevant and useful have dropped.

[wonderbread]

I had a PR6 site and a PR7 site...both of which got nailed :(