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4:01 am on Jan 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

since the updates I noticed that two of my sites are very high for some pretty good keywords on international google sites. When I go to google.com the sites are nowhere to be found. Any ideas why?
Is that because the update hasn't been done on the other servers?

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12:31 am on Feb 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The same with me... :(

Very curious about the meaning of this...

12:36 am on Feb 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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there still has been no official word from google about what is going on with this.
11:39 am on Feb 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Have you tried copying the exact referer and paste it into your address-bar? There are lots of possibilities to filter at Google that by just using the keyphrase from your stats-software it doesn't help you.
4:41 pm on Feb 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For all of us that are having good results in the .de and .es Google etc, I know Google doesnt take any account of description meta tags but how about adding some of these -

<meta name="language" content="en-us">
<meta name="Distribution" content="Global">

Just a thought ;)

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This issue of a different, less filtered set of serps on .de.fr and others has been going on for All of the Austin update.

In my Case, I sell parts for motorized widgets, which covers a lot of search terms. If you do not show up in the serps on .com, but show up on .de.fr etc, I do not believe that your site is not in google, it has just been filtered out of the results.

On some keywords, 2, 3, 4 sets, My widgets parts site has been filtered out of the serps being displayed on .com, but not on .de.fr etc. On other keywords I still retain for the most part the same positions in the serps, As before Austin.

Hey GG, what is up with this, and where are we going with it.

Thanks,
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I am googling and wondering why G cause it to us. If we are not in google.com then we are not in Yahoo and Aol and etc. The important is to be in google.com .

Do you think this is temporarry? or maybe not..?!

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No idea if it's temporary. I would be interested to know what kind of situation others who have this problem are in - i.e. how long site has been running, if they use guaranteed submit, if they use adwords etc etc.

i've just realised I appear at #3 for a 3 keyword search on .com (so kw1 kw2 I appear nowhere in the listings, kw1 kw2 kw3 I am ranked 3rd). Problem is, my industry is just 2 kewords :(

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if they use guaranteed submit, if they use adwords etc etc.

Afaik there's no "guaranteed submit" to Google, so I don't know what you mean. AdWords is also another world, though it's part of Google.

The secret of a stable listing is getting good backlinks imho. So don't check your SERPs, check the web for possible backlink sources. :)

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Being a new site and using guaranteed submit on a lot of the engines means that I have lots of pages listed in Google, but only my index listed in the other main engines.

As far as backlinks go (in Google) I am either ahead of or competing nicely with the first couple of pages of results for my keywords on Google.com.

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Same here, localized versions high results but at Google.com, not in the first 100 :(

What's interesting tho; Google seems to do something with your home language in its search query, affecting its results.
Changing the "&hl=XX" (en for English on Google.com) to "&hl=nl" (Netherlands) makes us appear at the same position we have on Google.nl.

Anyone can think of a good explanation?

Remeber tho, the upper does not seem to be valid for all searches. Haven't investigated why exactly, time is short on my behalf :(

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geo-targeting is the key.

Somebody from NL might prefer results from NL. So if you have "&hl=nl" or google.nl G takes that into consideration and ranks your site accordingly.

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Mmmm... What is that hl stuff? My site is English and no other language is there.

Should I use some meta tag for explaining Google it is interesting for the citizens of the world, any, which speaks English?

Should I move to an American server?

I noticed today google recognizes perfectly my host is french... As when I search for my top keyword, for only "french sites", I get in 1st place! ;)

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hl is the interface language from my point of view. Just try different codes. For example hl=de and you should get a german version of Google
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Hi!

As for country domains .fr, com.ru, I see the best(!) results I ever saw since June/2003 for all my sites. Also goodle shows that documents were updated on Feb/1st, so I think this is new data. I like it and hope that google.com will query/show new fresh data soon.

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Uau. It's true, if I search on Google.com, for my website, using another language (like Portuguese, in my case), my Web Site appears on the top results!

I'll add some meta tags to the code, before changing server, but I find this very, very bad...

We live in a global world, I simply host my website where it is cheaper... I could host in any other country, the place where I host it, is not related at all with the content of the site...

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I think it does not matter where you host your site. Looks loke google algo differs for .xx and .com. Hm. Do you know why?
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Can we get some response from Googleguy as to what is up with this situation?
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my site have the same question as yours,and you can try your english keywords in other languages feature google, you can find they are good except google.com,
i am sad for google, i dont know why?
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yah,it's a big problem,my site also come across this,and clicks drop a lot,what's wrong?!
12:08 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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please give me some suggestions.....
thanks very much
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I'm inclined to believe (and hope) that maybe the results will filter over to the US Google at some point. For me, my main keyword has some odd stuff is happening.

On non-US Google site I do a seach for my main keyword. I come up #6 with a fresh tag (feb2) but the listing does not have a link to my Google (DMOZ) directory listing and it is just listed as mydomain.com. I changed my title tag a few days ago and the new title is showing.

On the US Google site I do a search for my main keyword and I am towards the end of the second results page without a fresh tag, with a link to the Google (DMOZ) directory, and listed as www.mydomain.com.

It seems the non-US Google sites are showing the most recent data. Maybe they are just trying out some new algo tweaks (which seem pretty good to me) on their weaker markets prior to switching it completly across the board. It's really confusing to me why the DMOZ stuff isn't being shown and why the www is missing on non-US sites.

Wierd stuff...I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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Can any expert give out some suggestions,we are all eager to know why,TKS
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unfortunately, I see that .xx results are the same as for .com now ;(
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Yep, looks like .xx sites have the same stuff as .com now. ugh.
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yes,.de is the same as .com now, i am doubtful and angry for it, google is crazy now, and it will be break.......
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This is first time when do not like search results since starting using google as my only search engine in 1999-00. If they stay with current data/algo, it will be the worst for their market share.
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Yeah,the same now,
but my result disappear from both .com .intl.
Sad.....
8:45 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It matters a lot where you host.

A 'url.com' hosted in the USA will give the best Google.com positions.
It will however not perform as well on regional Googles.

I would then put up a site with a country specific domain 'url.co.uk' for example which would feature well in 'google.co.uk' and so on.

Care must be taken to avoid duplication.

The combination of domain suffix and hosting location (geographic) is a very important factor.

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same...all listings gone :-(
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