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They started visiting the new site within a week. The redirect was complete within 3 weeks. However, they still haven't gone past my home page.
I had about 200 pages in the index, now I have 1 page.
The spider comes to my site once or twice a day, but doesn't do any digging.
The COM SERP remained prevalent in the listings; then, dropping off, the ORG was picked up... ostensibly without any importance at all (going from 1st out of 20 million results, to nowhere at all).
Perhaps it is just a time thing; links needing to be recal'ed, etc.
Just like yowza - after a few months of basically ZERO listings, we finally have our new index page in the results. However, the googlebot, which stops by daily, IGNORES the rest of the new site that it used to index just fine (when we had the domains mirrored).
I don't know why Google's robot is broken as it is. However, I was VERY glad to hear that Yahoo might drop Google results. We do fantastic on all relevant searches (it's a niche market) for EVERY search engine I know of - EXCEPT google.
A more detailed listing of what has happened:
- we had two domains with incoming links to both (mirrored), businessname.com and business-name.com
- business-name.com was our older domain that was primarily indexed in google - but we wanted to shift to businessname.com
- in september we put a 301 on business-name.com
- very soon google dropped all of our results
- next update google picked up our index page at businessname.com
- there was a huge penalty of sorts applied against our new domain, possibly a "new web site" filter of sorts?
- by end of December our businessname.com site (index page only) is finally scoring as it should
- however, during ALL these months, googlebot has stopped by once or twice a day and checked out our index page, but ignored the entire rest of the site
So, to answer your question. It took until the next update to drop our one domain, but it's been months before our new domain was (index page only) finally in. Some of our issues might stem from the fact that we didn't switch to a completely new domain – and we have yet to see our entire site back into the index.
Do you have any normal direct links to the new URL yet? I get the impression (and mind you, I haven't formally tested it) that Google wants to see a direct link before it "believes" a redirect.
My site PageRank is 7, and all those pages had PageRank of 6
Trusting Google and all I read here I put a 301 on the surviving .co.uk redirecting to the .com, and also wrote to Google explaining what had happened and what I had done. Looking back it seems a bit of a gamble!
However it was a seamless transition - in the next update the .co.uk pages were not there, all the .com pages were back, the backlinks for the site had been combined and my PageRank went up accordingly.
Ah, the good old days of early 2003! :-)
HenryUK - that sounds like an idea, but, I agree with you - very risky. The crazy thing is that our business-name.com disappeared rather soon, but a few of the subpages have shown back up in "allinurl" searches. I'm afraid that, if I e-mail them and ask them to drop the hyphenated domain and pick up the other, they will completely ban/drop the hyphenated domain and continue to ignore the new one. In addition, if this isn't fixed in another few months, we'll probably have to try going back to our old method of mirroring the two domains. I can't think of what else we could do. I keep thinking we probably would have had more success if we had switched to a new domain instead of dealing with this mirrored situation...
I feel like we are just another example of someone trying to abide by the rules and getting in trouble for it. I would love to have GoogleGuy’s input on this!
Lo and behold, googlebot - late last night - actually requested some of the other pages on our site. I'm assuming those pages should begin to appear in the results within the next month or so.
I don't know if it simply happened because of how much time has gone by of if it occured because I mentioned googleguy's name...
This is our current story:
Pre-September 2003: businessname.com and business-name.com mirrored (both have incoming links, both share backlinks, business-name.com was the older one that was primarily listed in the SERP's)
September: 301 from business-name.com to businessname.com - next update ALL our results disappeared from google.
mid-October: businessname.com's INDEX page only was in the SERP's, but didn't score well at all (possibly a "new" content penalty or filter of sorts?)
Several months passed with no apparent activity. Once or twice an alternate datacenter would show our index page as scoring MUCH better (as if the "new" penalty was expiring).
Around Christmas 2003 the businessname.com index page began scoring as it should. However, during all this time the googlebot was ignoring the rest of our site.
January 6th googlebot finally requested additional files from the site...
I'm not sure when the new files will appear, but I would assume they will be back in with the next update.
What is crazy is that none of the other search engines had this kind of trouble making the change...
Hope this helps others that are stuck in the same situation.
It took altavista many months to make the change, and alltheweb dropped the old domain after about 5 months, but have never listed the new one, even with about 30 backlinks some of which sites alltheweb already lists.