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Is Google Cloaking itself?

Sites show in Google tool but not in results

   
7:15 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've a group of sites on some highly competitive keywords. While i see my site on top of SERPS in Google toolbar they're not there when i serch them in Google.(mostly they disappear. All datacentres results also show these site. The Stats also show that the visitors frequency on the keywords concerned is also unaltered. Also when i told a friend of mine who lives in a different city to check the ranking they're same as shown by the tool bar.

Is google cloaking?

8:35 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member googleguy is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



We're not cloaking--promise. :) Have you checked every data center? If one were different, that could explain it.
9:23 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)



We're not cloaking--promise. :)

I think we should submit a spam report just in case :o)

11:31 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member kaled is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



My traffic seems to be stabilising now but after Florida it became enormously erratic despite marginal improvements in SERPS.

Quite literally, traffic from Google could drop by 80% from one day to the next despite similar SERPS from all (known) data centers. Also the percentage of traffic coming from Google.com as opposed to country variants varied subtantially too.

I suspect some experimental geolocation filters were at work but I've failed to prove this on the couple of times I've checked using proxy servers.

My domain is a .net hosted in the UK

Kaled.

PS If two users located in say, the US and UK, get different results from google.com, I would call that cloaking.

11:35 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)



Very interesting I'm sure, but me thinks you have the wrong topic :o)
12:58 pm on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think we should submit a spam report just in case :o)

Please enter the name of the site that is misbehaving:
[form action="/dev/null"]
[input name="site"]
[/form]

9:02 am on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member googleguy is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



"If two users located in say, the US and UK, get different results from google.com, I would call that cloaking."

My personal definition of cloaking is "showing different content to a search engine than to a user." So I wouldn't call that cloaking. And I wouldn't call it cloaking to get different search results on different days, either. Sorry to drift off-topic a little, but I think it's a pretty useful distinction to make. But it's late, so maybe people don't consider it that useful; who knows.. :)

11:55 am on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks googleguy i feel relxed :)but;

Though, I've been checking my sites in the google dance tool. Almost 7 datacentere have them in top 5, rest 3 have them in top 15 but when i do the normal search the results totally disappear. However when i told my friend in the other city/ even in the city with different connection they could find my sites on the rank as shown by google dance tool.
And now just two hours back i got myself a dynamic I.P in place of my previous which was Static. Surprisingly i can see my sites now.

what do you say about it?

 

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