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I think that PR is more important now with the changes in the algo, so, other than the places that I've mentioned, where are the very best places to pick up PR.
Best wishes
Sid
PS I've noticed that one of the sies that has recently risen to the top of my particular pile appears to have magically created its own PageRank by carefull cross linking of hundreds, perhaps thousands of pages on related sites all controlled by the same company. So much for dupe filtering.
I apologize. I reveal my age with that comment. There was a 1970s TV show called "Kung Fu", where the master called his pupil "grasshopper". Basically, this is a term of endearment. To the modern audience a quarter of a century later, please read that as "my student."
God...I'm old. ;)
I remember it well, I think it was a moralistic googly type message, "when you can take the pebble from my hand' then you become a true spammer"?
Trouble is loads of people have loads of pebbles! ;)
Forget all about PR, it's simply not worth the stress and is rather short-sighted.
Hi Excel,
Any chance you could expand on that a bit please?
Just wondering if there is any logic in the statement or if it's a plea from a wounded heart.
Best wishes
Sid
God...I'm old. ;)
But you've still managed to do 3702 posts in an 18 month period.
Good luck
Sid
For example, I would expect a Yahoo directory listing in the business category to have almost no influence in the Google's serps. (PR will go up, though.) It is either happening now or will happen very soon. Makes sense from Google's business model, why should it help a competitor make lots of money by selling PR when they can earn themselves by adwords or similar avenues?
Just my opinion. :-)
Or in this case what some may consider the ethically dubious practice of buying PR. The original poster is commercial webmaster, and already buying a link in the Yahoo directory. At Webmasterworld most posters are commercial webmasters, SEOs, etc. If you think more PR is important (that is the topic of this thread), and you are a commercial webmaster, then it makes sense to buy PR if the price is right. Stop and think how cheap buying links are if offers are made to teenagers with home pages? And you could easily get the exact anchor text you want. Getting a site to PR6 by buying links should be dirt cheap. PR7 for a thousand dollars a year would be trivially easy. And PR7 could be got much cheaper if you know the angles.
"Marissa Mayer, the Director of Consumer Web Products at Google, at the Search Engine Strategies Conference in Chicago last week said, "If you dropped in rankings, go back and look at who you linked to and who's linking to you. If any of these people are using spam techniques, they're the reason your site no longer appears on Google."
Probably one of the reasons that i was affected so hard by Florida. However i now show up quite well. Still not like i used to but only time will tell.
Who said buying links from PR7s and PR8s was cheap? When I have commented about buying links from teenager's home pages cheap, while such with PR5 and PR6 aren't hard to find, PR7+ is rare. PR7+ usually is found only on large sites with lots of inbound links. Unlikely many will sell links cheap.
Getting a site to PR6 by buying links should be dirt cheap. PR7 for a thousand dollars a year would be trivially easy. And PR7 could be got much cheaper if you know the angles.
This is what I was referring too.
Ahh...what I was thinking is getting a site to PR7 buy purchasing a number of links on PR6 or below pages. This should be feasible for $1000 a year. And, a big plus to this strategy is that you will get a number of links with the exact keyword laden anchor text. IMO anchor text is more important than PR. Which is why I suspect that buying very high PR links (at high cost) just ain't worth it.
And, to encourage some people to think more outside the box, consider the strategy of rather than paying directly for links, to get them in exchange for giving something of value. Flatter the webmaster about how great his site is, and that you'd be happy to pay for hosting, and all you'd ask in return is a link to your site. D'ya know how easy with reseller hosting plans you can offer free hosting to low traffic web sites? Which is typical of sites run by teenagers.
Business.com could be worth it as well.
I've wondered about Business.com because they return your site framed, something I really dislike. I'm also not sure whether this arrangement passes on enough PageRank or anchor text boost to be helpful.
While it might be good for traffic, can anyone who's been listed comment about how the link works?
Also, it is often worth it for the traffic alone, especially if the category has a decent listing on Google.
Any chance you could expand on that a bit please?
Sure. When you seek out links from other pages the PR you see (via Google Toolbar) may, or may not be correct. Even if a page has PR 7 today there is nothing to say it is correct and/or will still be PR 7 tomorrow. Conversely, a page that has no, or little PR, may be PR 7 + tomorrow.
I have links from PR 3, or less pages, that send me lots of highly targetted traffic. Seeking links only for PR does not make a good site, you should seek links that will send you targetted traffic and link back to sites that your visitors would find of use. If the page has no PR, so what! It may just be PR 10 months from now.
Too many (IMO) *try* (and often fail) to build their site for Google, when all that is needed is a site with customers and people in mind. Google likes these site FAR more than those that employ SEO. Think human, content and standard HTML and Google will find you and send you lots of traffic. After all, Google's ultimate aim is to *think human* too!
NEVER buy PR, it will turn around and bite you on the %$#! The only ones that benefit in the long run is the one taking your money!
If that doesn't work, just work your way down the chain.. Yahoo, Acrobat, The White House.
(NB: the trick is to be polite and compliment them on their site...)
I have links from PR 3, or less pages, that send me lots of highly targetted traffic.
Well said.
We have a link from a PR2 page that sends us about 100 visits a day of the best quality traffic that you could wish for.
TJ
Google is driving me insane. ;)
Get a good no win no fee lawyer you may have a good case!
Best wishes
Sid
Google is driving me insane. ;)
Google is driving me traffic :o)
Google is driving me traffic :o)
Be very, very worried!
Insanity comes soon after traffic ;-}
Best wishes
Sid
