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Google and Doorway Pages

Post Florida Google may inadvertently encourage doorway-type pages

         

superscript

8:18 pm on Dec 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



Some very high ranking commercial sites appear to be in that position because their high ranking page looks non-commercial to Google.

A good, and very high ranking example I found only contained these Buy terms in an image file. There is a single link further into the site, but no text to suggest to a robot that it is a storefront.

I_am_back

7:11 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)



One could also say that many interior pages vanished why the Index page remained. The statement would be nor more or less factual than the other way around.

Also, keep in mind that many 'Webmasters' mostly use SEO on the home page. Because of this it's often the one that get's busted by Google. Besides this, all sites have only one Index page but can have thousands of interior pages.

Miop

8:41 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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the difference between the index page and the interior pages at least on my site, is that all of the interior pages are linked to the index page, while the index page is not linked to all the interior pages. Does that make a difference to the serps?
I cannot understand (or rectify) the problem that my index page appears for green widget shop, yellow widget shop, blue widget shop but not red widget shop. None of the interior pages appear for these kw's either. Neither do the pages appear for any of the widgets by name. 1 month after I was buried by Florida, I can see no rhyme or reason for this unless a filter is in place for red widget shop. I *do* appear (at number 1) for Red Widget Shops and blue widget shops plural - for blue, green and yellow widget shop singular.
I think it *must* be something to do with links to me, whether from someone elses site or my own, and whatever page is pointing to my index page, it is acting like a doorway page.
My site is in my profile if anyone wants to check it out.

europeforvisitors

2:28 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)



the difference between the index page and the interior pages at least on my site, is that all of the interior pages are linked to the index page, while the index page is not linked to all the interior pages. Does that make a difference to the serps?

I don't think it's that simple, because my top or main index page continues to rank #1 for its most important keyphrase in Google, and it has links from every one of my internal pages.

In my case, I think the problem had something to do with a combination of absolute links to secondary domain names that were redirecting to internal pages under the main domain. In other words:

MAIN DOMAIN: widgets.com

SECONDARY DOMAIN (SITE WITHIN MY SITE): bluewidgets.com, which was redirecting to:

ACTUAL ADDRESS OF SITE WITHIN MY SITE: widgets.com/blue/index.html

(Never mind why my site is set up this way--it's a long story that has nothing to do with SEO.)

I'm assuming that Google saw the 301 redirect from the secondary domain to an internal page under my main domain and applied some kind of "doorway page" filter. (The secondary domain's index page still has a PR of 7, by the way--in fact, its PR went from 6 to 7 during or after the Florida update--and it shows up in a Web search for the secondary site's name but not for its major keyphrases.)

superscript

1:47 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)



Also, keep in mind that many 'Webmasters' mostly use SEO on the home page

A valid point, and in many cases the index page is where most inbound links are pointed. I don't think 'all pages are created equal' - index pages remain special pages.

It's certainly of great interest that relevant index pages seem to have been worst hit - and yet in many cases index pages with little or no content appear to have survived Florida relatively unscathed.

John_Creed

8:45 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Your index page should _not_ be your only SEO'd page. Or the page you focus most/all of your SEO on. I get 95% of my search engine traffic from interior pages. If I had to rely on my index page for results i'd be pulling my hair out right now.

Google, as well as every other search engine, are way too erratic and imprecise to be 100% depended on to give good results in regards to one page. It's way too hit and miss. The more pages you have the more opportunities you have to get good results from the search engines.

Every month more and more sites that are showing up in the top for most of my searches seem to be deep interior pages. Maybe Google has realized that Index pages are mostly just glorified site maps? Who knows.

superscript

10:44 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)



John_Creed,

Hi John, I agree, and really should have got round to SEOing my entire site. But post-Florida, the fact many of my subpages are poorly titled etc. may have been a blessing in disguise!

PCInk

11:02 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> People search Google for information and content sites, not affiliates and online stores with people trying to sell them stuff.

What you are saying is if someone wants to buy something, they use a different search engine? Which one?

It is my belief that most people find a search engine that they like and then ... use it for everything. Information or product purchasing, it does not matter.

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