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Pattern for SERP without description since Florida?

         

zgb999

3:50 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't find out what it means if a SERP only shows a title and a link to similar pages but no description at all.

Before Florida I never noticed this but now I see more and more of those SERP.

One case that I might post is a profile of a ODP editor whose editor name is listed in a querry but as mentioned only with title and a link to similar pages.

Thanks for your feedback.

Marketing_C

10:04 am on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I noticed the same too!

We have pages without a description though they have a meta description and enough content for a snipet.

wanna_learn

12:45 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Loads of people witout Title, Description and Cache!
You are better off though ;-)

zgb999

5:07 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From what I can see pages that show no description (though there is a description and enough information on the page) have certain patterns. I found
- orphan pages that are not linked to anymore from anywhere but are stil showing in Google
- pages with "duplicate content" in the sense that there are other pages which are very similar to the ones without description.

It looks like this is showing some kind of penalty.

curlykarl

5:52 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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orphan pages that are not linked to anymore from anywhere but are stil showing in Google

I dont think so

It looks like this is showing some kind of penalty.

How are you backing up this theory?

Karl :)

zgb999

9:57 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We checked the pages without description for several clients and found that pages with content similar to other pages had no description.

The strange thing was that some pages from a site had a description and others had none though they were more or less identitcal (e.g. if one page was for big blue gadgets and the other one for small blue gadgets, both with a description for blue gadgets then only one showed a description on Google). All similar pages were listed but most of them with no description. That is where the thought about the penalty comes from.

A few pages that had no description were pages from our clients that were still on the server but had no link to it anymore.

So far we could put all pages from our clients without description in on of those two categories.

wanna_learn

12:34 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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zgb999
Disagree!

In my case , even index not showing either Title, Description or cache.

All pages Linked with index too have same situation BUT the pages that are NOT linked with index still show Title and Description.

So reverse of what you said. :-)

I wonder if its a kind of penalty.

Could anybody help in fiding if there is shortcut to know if anyother site Mirroring me like www.hissite.com?mysite.com

zgb999

1:00 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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wanna_learn

In case you are speaking about the site in your profile, it has PR 0 so some penalty might be in place for you (?).

This could mean that the assumption that
if Google is not showing a description then this shows that some kind of a penalty has been applied (whereof the not showing the description might be a side effect)
might be true ;).

wanna_learn

1:27 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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zgb999
Not just site in profile, rather few other sites which invite absolutely no Penalty!

also site in profile has PR 5
look carefully, Toolbar is bugging.

Few other sites have PR 5 and in same Slow Death situation.
This is totally a new 'Disease', where a proper diagnosis is needed.

Many of us are still wondering about it and no official "Words of wisedom" recieved so far.

BTW, check your all indexed pages in Google....are some of them without cache? are some of them disappeared from SERP for KWS they must show?

PS - this is not at all concerned with Florida Update

zgb999

2:27 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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wanna_learn

From here you not only have PR 0 for the site in your profile. If I am looking for pages for your site there is none in Google.

The pages I was talking about are there when I search e.g. for site:domain.com "+www.domain.com" or in SERP for keywords.

All of the pages without description are indeed missing a cache version.

I mentioned Florida as we realized this pattern for our sites only after Florida.

I am really wondering what is going on...

wanna_learn

5:41 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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zgb999,
You dint read what I mentioned ..."slow death"

The site in Profile surely has a PR but its not indexed, ONCE IT WAS
at 1st stage it lost Title, Description and Cache at Google then it was outta index gradually.

Few other sites of mine.. are still in index , but dont show Title, Description and Cache.
they have a PR 5 too.

Its amazing

zgb999

9:55 am on Dec 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In [webmasterworld.com...]
GoogleGuy mentioned: "Did we actually fetch pages from that directory, or do we just show titles without any cached page link (we can do that for urls that we see referenced but didn't crawl)? "

So I was right in saying that orphan pages that are not linked to anymore from anywhere but are stil showing in Google show this pattern.

But what about the other pages that have a link to but have no description?

As mentioned we found that for our clients those pages are
- pages with "duplicate content" in the sense that there are other pages which are very similar to the ones without description.

But why is Google not crawling those pages that have the same amount of links from the same pages as others that are showing a description?

Is there a duplicate content filter preventing the crawler to even visit the pages (but how could it find they are duplicates without visiting them...).

Marketing_C

11:15 am on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Our site also shows this pattern only for the pages that are somewhat similar to other pages.

Is there a clue to how close a page may be in order to not fall into this type of penalty?