PR of linking page makes PR0 rank higher?

[airpal]

If you have a PR0 page (with one incoming link) that is ranking fairly high for a somewhat competitive term, does the pagerank of the page linking to you make a difference in your sites rankings (if it was PR4 or PR8)? In an example, would a PR8 link to a PR0 page help more than a PR4 or PR5 link to a PR0 page, in terms of ranking? I would think that the only advantage is seen when the actual Pagerank has fully transferred, and not when your page is still at PR0. However, I have read before that getting a link from a high PR page gets your site freshbotted daily, so I'm wondering if there is some relation to PR0 rankings also. May somebody please clarify this based on actual experience?

[airpal]

Any experts at link campaigns care to comment?

[markis00]

If your site is PR 0 and a site with high PR links to you, your site becomes PR one less then the high PR site. I may be wrong on that but I know for a fact that...

if a high PR site links to you, it increases your PR.

[markis00]

A link from a high PR site's HOMEPAGE will get your site freshbooted every day. I know this for a fact b/c I have my site on a few homepages of people with high google SERP rankings - and I get freshbotted every day, for sure.

A normal link on a high PR site will still help, but not as much as a homepage link would from that site.

[airpal]

I think I might not have explained the question properly. My question is when your site is PR0, does google freshbot/rank your site higher when it has an incoming link from a PR8 site vs a PR4 site? Or does the PR of the incoming link not make any difference when your site is still at PR0? I ask because I have gotten good rankings (and constant fresh tags) with a site that is still a PR0 (that I hope will have it's pagerank updated in a few days)... and am wondering if I still need that high PR incoming link or can just use a low PR link to get freshbotted often and rank higher.

[Stefan]

I have read before that getting a link from a high PR page gets your site freshbotted daily

What it will do is boost your own page rank, (unless it's one of a thousand links from that high PR page in which case it's totally diluted), and this often results in more frequent bot visits and freshtags.

would a PR8 link to a PR0 page help more than a PR4 or PR5 link to a PR0 page, in terms of ranking?

The PR boost depends on how many outgoing links are on the respective pages. A link from a PR5 page that only has three links is better than a link from a PR8 page with a hundred outgoing links.

Page Rank is only one of the factors in ranking anyway... a PR5 site can beat a PR8 on the right keywords.

[airpal]

I am NOT referring to a PR8 giving a new site a Pagerank of 7. I am talking about the weeks or months when the new site has a pagerank of 0. During those weeks where the new site is STILL at PR0 but ranks well, is a PR8 link better than a PR4 link, or does it not make a difference because the PR hasn't been transferred yet?

[Stefan]

The PR boost depends on how many outgoing links are on the respective pages. A link from a PR5 page that only has three links is better than a link from a PR8 page with a hundred outgoing links.

Google will be aware of the incoming link's PR long before your new PR appears in the toolbar. The toolbar PR is updated infrequently.

<added>
Hey airpal, a bit more detail... didn't mean to be brusque.

In the past there was something called "inherited page rank", that meaning PR would be transferred immediately. With Dominic, it changed... you wouldn't see the new PR of a page until weeks had gone by and Google finally updated the PR that shows on the toolbar. For my site, this seemed to make no difference... the PR was transferred to the pages as soon as they were in the index, and helped the listings, just as in the past, even though it didn't show on the toolbar. Eventually, the toolbar PR would catch up but it was just a "clerical correction".

You don't have a PR0 right now... it's higher, you just can't see it on the toolbar yet.

Hope this helps
</added>

[airpal]

stefan, you're the man! Your post helped A LOT! Now I know it's worthwhile to actually go after the bigtime PR link even if your "toolbar PR" shows 0, it's actually gaining some of the benefit of the high PR link anyway, until pagerank shown on the toolbar is updated. Thanks!

[Stefan]

You're welcome :-)

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