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Lets do some refreshing work, what exactly helps in google positoning (#1 dream). I request all others to share experiences.
Tips 1 Url choosing
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kw1-kw2.com is better than kw1kw2.com
Lets share other factors
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1)what is optimum keyword density?
2)short title is better or longer?
3)which one is better "kw1 kw2" or just "kw1" as anchor text for kw1?
4)having h1, h2,h3, h4 for kw1 will help or just h1 and h2 is more effective?
5)what is the penalty for duplicate contents?
6)what is the weigtage given to links?
many more......... ask questions and give answers. lets learn as much as possible from others experience.share whatever you seems will help others. give an increment to tips number.
Hope to see a very useful thread here. All geeks lets help each other.
Thanks
Aji
What really helps to get a good position in Google?
**At the moment** (google is always subject to change)
In order of importance:-
1. Anchor Text
2. Anchor Text
3. Anchor Text
etc
What helps you get good anchor text?
1. Good page titles.
2. Write good emails when you request links.
3. Choose URL carefully. Or go for brandname. Personally I prefer brandname, but that is for seperate discussion (and it's been had many times here). If you go brandname, it means more work as anchor text will be slightly trickier to get.
4. Keywords in subdirectories and page in the URL (e.g. www.brandname.com/widget-reviews/bloggs-widget.html).
TJ
1)what is optimum keyword density?
2)short title is better or longer?
3)which one is better "kw1 kw2" or just "kw1" as anchor text for kw1?
4)having h1, h2,h3, h4 for kw1 will help or just h1 and h2 is more effective?
5)what is the penalty for duplicate contents?
6)what is the weigtage given to links?
Ohh, these must came from a book written 4 years ago for webcrawler or hotbot.
remember the magic word - ANCHOR TEXT.
The phenomenon:
1) They all have 3-5 times fewer incoming links to their sites than #2, #3, #4 competitors
2) 50-80% of their link are with proper anchor text exactly or almost exactly containg the words they are #1 on.
They are not always straight "widgets development" or "widgets ecommerce" but variations.
3) their #2, #3, #4 competitors bid on "plain" anchor text including just brand name or simply "www.example.com"
I followed the same practices on the same directories, some of which are even FFA.
I got my sites to page 1 on almost all those words after the last crawl.
Make your own conclusions...
Write good emails when you request links.
What's that golden key to the goodness of a webmaster's heart, Trillianjedi?
Where's that mob of communist webmasters:)
They all have 3-5 times fewer incoming links to their sites than #2, #3, #4 competitors
I find that extremely hard to believe. Are you sure? Have you checked for high quantities of low PR inbounds in AllTheWeb?
What's that golden key to the goodness of a webmaster's heart, Trillianjedi?
On the assumption that you have a site that is of a quality that most related sites would want to link to anyway, it's just a case of asking nicely and not making a generic email. Comment on their site - give them feedback - things you like about it, things you don't.
TJ
Ok then lets handle this
3)which one is better "kw1 kw2" or just "kw1" as anchor text for kw1?
my target phrase is (1)"abc def", but also tageting another phrase (2)"abc def ghi". Having "abc def ghi" will be better for the (2) but does it reduce the weight for (1).
Whether longer text as anchor text helps?
Aji
Anchor text is your link text/link title. The text that go between the <a> and </a>
can someone explain to me the just of anchor text. sorry if this has been brought up before.
Have a look, and you will get most of it.
[webmasterworld.com...]
Regards
Aji
If you look at people's source codes, take them with a grain of salt, you may not be seeing what the se is, or the page may have been recently changed.
Is this correct syntax for adding a link to my site or submitting my site if i sold widgets?
The problem for me is that as I try to create one new page a day - per Brett's guide - I am finding it very very difficult to find the time to e-mail webmasters for anchor text that is unique to each new page I build. Having the same anchor text for many pages won't cut it, according to my sample searches on google. Each page must have inbound anchor text specfic to each page's kw.
I'm starting to think it is all about anchor text.
LOL
;-)
TJ
anchor is important, but it is not everything and imo it's not the most important.
None of your "competitors" for this page has this phrase in their anchor text I suspect. And I also suspect that you have the phrase in your page title?
TJ
KW in Anchor text pointing to page
Page PR
KW in Page Title
KW Text attributes (H's, Bold, etc...)
KW in body text
In something like that order. Can vary sometimes with less competitive searches (which is what I mostly target, it's so much easier), where a page with just body text + PR can rank pretty good since in those cases usually no-one is using the KW in anchor text or page titles.
There are probably other factors, but if so, they don't seem to be very important.
1)internal pages
2)external pages
3)outgoing links
sharper says
Page PRHow important is PR in good position, apart from attracting other good sites for reciprocal links.
Aji
1. The domain is the name of the product: not the keyword phrase.
2. Keyword keyword keyword in Title, Description, and H1 tags.
3. Keyword Phrase mentioned once in italics, Bold, and normal.
3. Lots of Incoming links.
4. Repeated the same steps for additional pages to optimize them for other variations of the keyword phrases.
5. ALT tags on all images
6. Process of going from obscurity to #4 took 5-6 months.
However! The Number 2 site listed above is using a keywordkeywordkeyword.com domain. It took them 45 days to achieve the #2 listing with 1/5th of the number of backlinks we have.
So i decided to do an experiment. I took a smaller product we offer and decided to dedicate a site specifically to it.
We have achieved a #2 rank in 30 days. The only difference is this is a smaller market and less competitive.
For this site I used:
1. keyword-keyword-keyword.com domain
2. Keyword keyword keyword in Title, Description, and H1 tags.
3. Keyword Phrase mentioned once in italics, Bold, and normal.
4. Subpages are domain.com/keyword_keyword_keyword.htm
5. Only 10 backlinks of PR4 or higher.
What I am waiting to see is which will maintain its position longer.
1)internal pages
2)external pages
3)outgoing links
I have seen no evidence that internal or external is of more value, or that outgoing links contribute a positive value.
What I have seen is anchor text making a dramatic improvement. That said, with regard to domain names, the biggest value in kw.com, kw1kw2.com, kw1-kw2.com is the natural anchor text. My kw1kw2.com benefits tremendously from anchor text that reads "kw1 kw2".
How important is PR in good position, apart from attracting other good sites for reciprocal links.
You can't seperate PR from inbound links - PR is a product of inbound links.
It follows that a site with many inbound links with anchor text will also have a decent PR score.
The two are completely related.
keyword-keyword-keyword.com
I believe web users are beginning to realise that most sites with domains like the above are junk.
TJ
allinurl: keyword in url, not smooshed together like everybody did years ago, but seperated by hyphens, with "url" including directory and page names
keyword in page title
If none of the above applies for a noncompetitive or multi-word query, then pagerank+word-on-the-page.
I've been playing around with anchor text on internal links and so far am beginning to see good results.
Maybe the perfect situation is when the keyword/phrase
1. appears in the title tag of the page, and
2. appears in the description tag, and
3. appears prominently in the page text, and
4. appears a few times in the page text, and
5. is used as the anchor text of incoming links
?
That seems to me like a recipe for getting a good position.
Anyway, my target search term is "red thinger" but my links have all been "MyBrand red thinger". Was having MyBrand preceding my target keywords a mistake?
(sorry, I know you folks like to use the word 'widget', but that word gets on my nerves for some reason :) )
Links. It's all about the incoming links and incoming link text. That other stuff is garnish.
The only links to inside pages on my sites are my own links.
But the inside pages are properly optimised.
Many of those inside pages come number one for their optimised keywords, but the one thing they DON'T have is carefully selected incoming links, text or anything else. All the incoming links are identical, courtesy of a Dreamweaver template.
I'm with Googleguy - Content matters.
Links are garnish.
<grin>
DerekH
