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Can "recycling" PR boost Home page PR?

         

glengara

12:00 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was under the impression that PR passed to inner pages cannot be "recycled" to boost the home page PR unless there are some outside links to inner pages.
Have I been wrong?

steveb

2:19 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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200 links is double the links GoogleGuy has suggested. It doesn't surprise me at all that Googlebot would have some trouble accurately crawling all the pages all the time, so some having PR4 and some having PR5 would be normal. It would be weird if your PR5 pages are showing 160 links while your PR4 pages are showing 180 links, including all the links shown for the PR5 page.

Dave_Hawley

5:16 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



This PR thing is going to drive you Webmasters to an early grave :o)

There is life outside of PR.

Dave

glengara

8:05 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, if you can increase home age PR solely through internal linking, it seems the PR channeling lobby have a good case after all.......

Dave_Hawley

9:24 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



if you can increase home age PR solely through internal linking

Me thinks not. I have a 14000 page site with my homepage link on about 5000 of these. My PR has never gone up from this, only from external linking.

I think Google is going through some PR shuffling at present as my homepage PR dropped to 5 from 6 and Links: to 199 from 284. It should have gone to PR 8 and Links: to 400+ My SERPS have not been changed though, so I have my fingers crossed that it's either the Google Toolbar and/or a Google hitch.

Dave

ciml

11:09 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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glengara, you can shift PR distribution through internal linking, but increasing it overall is not practical due to the enourmous size of the Web.

I don't know anyone who's conducted fruitful research into the Toolbar PR given to an unlinked page. The more obvious approaches require a measurable amount of PR to be collected from unlinked pages. I don't see an easy method for getting a large number of unlinked pages in Google.

steveb:
> 200 links is double the links GoogleGuy has suggested.

At the time GoogleGuy suggested that, pages with a lot of links did not pass the expected PageRank. Things have changed, but of course they may change back.

glengara

12:20 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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*... you can shift PR distribution through internal linking, but increasing it overall is not practical...*

Ciml, that's how I used to see it, doubt has arisen from reading too many posts from the proponents of PR hoarding/channeling/funneling ;-)

steveb

7:55 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can raise your own PR but its a puny effect. You have a single page PR5 site, linked from Yahoo or wherever. If you do nothing, you are not using your "vote", but your PR5 will stay that way as long as the Yahoo link is in place.

If you make three subpages linked from your main page, and then link them back to your main page, you will vote for yourself and raise your PR tinily. Similarly you could link those three new pages to a Geocities page of yours and make it a PR3 or possibly PR4. That is the same effect that you could have when linking back to your home page. So in terms of your main page, you are able to vote to increase its PR5 just the same as if someone else linked a PR3 page to you. Meaning it would be very little effect, but it would be more than nothing. Your principal vote is in making those three PR4 pages. You now are a master of one PR5 page and three PR4 pages, which is "more PR" than one PR5 page.

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