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Dropped from SERPs

Site with top rankings for a whole year now dropped from Google SERPS

         

bucaro

5:39 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have no clue why Google dropped my site from SERPs.

Site had been there for a year. No tricks, great content, design. Link exchanges, paid links.

PR used to be 8 now it dropped to 6, but no where to be found unless you type domain name, domain.com or the full title of my site.

Any help will be appreciated

MyWifeSays

12:43 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are so many things that can affect your ranking. You need to think what has changed since your good rankings. Here's a few ideas:

1. google algo change.
2. new google penalty filters.
3. hosting problem.
4. changes to your page.
5. changes to pages that link to you.
6. changes to pages that you link to.

yonnermark

1:09 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just be patient.
You'll be back

g1smd

1:39 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Run your site (certainly a dozen or more "key" pages to start with) through [validator.w3.org...] to make sure that there are no silly HTML errors that are tripping the robots up.

nakulgoyal

6:23 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Get some Link Building done for your website. Would be good in the Long Run. Make sure the links you get are NO FFA, NO GUESTBOOK Links, NO link Farms. 100% geniune HTML links. No crappy linking techniques. and you will be there everywhere. :-)

bucaro

7:59 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks a lot for all your answers

MyWifeSays:

1. I know is not the change. I have several other sites that maintain their high rankings
2. This is what I assume, but my sites are not doing: hidden text or links, guestbook or weblog
spaming, link farms, duplicate content, etc.
3. We change the pages often to update content, but is the same for all sites
4. I control some of the pages that link to me as I pay advertising, the rest I checked and are mostly the same
6. I was not aware that the content of the pages I link to affects my rankings

Yonnermark:

I am hoping is some mistake on Google part.

g1smd:

I ran the validator and it gave a lot of errors. I ran it for my competitors and my other sites and the same

nakulgoyal

I had built thousands of links to all my sites from link exchanges primarily. I do not get links from
guestbooks, blogs, or link farms. I do see some competitors getting their links from weblogs
and Google rewards them with better rankings and my site with better content, design and
legitimate links is dropped. This is frustrating.

Luckily my primary site is still there and so are the others. But they dropped my no.2

Sometimes is makes you think if it is worth it to spend so much time, money and energy when the others
get better rewarded with a lot less effort.

kpaul

8:02 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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legitimate links

i just want to say that some links from blogs are legitimate too ;)

g1smd

8:35 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> I ran the validator and it gave a lot of errors. I ran it for my competitors and my other sites and the same <<

Fix your errors then, and get one upon the competiton.

MyWifeSays

8:43 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>6. I was not aware that the content of the pages I link to affects my rankings

That is my understanding - if you link to sites which have been penalized.

There are currently quite a few threads where people are complaining about either not being indexed or dropping massively in the SERPS. I'm starting to worry about competitor sabotage.

Google used to say that this wasn't possible. Now they say there is "almost nothing a competitor can do to harm your ranking". Well that means that it can be done and the change in wording in my opinion is very significant.

bucaro

8:48 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kpaul:

I was referring to guestbook or blog spaming. Which is getting very common this days. I think there are legitimate guestbook or weblog links, but when somebody posts a lot of links with keywords on the anchor text to a guestbook, weblog, etc. I would consider that spam.

g1smd:

I will certainly fix those errors. thanks for the tip.

I still think the problem has to be somewhere else.

bucaro

8:57 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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MyWifeSays:

That explains my drop in PageRank (From 8 to 6) I will definitely audit my link exchange partners. Is going to be a lot of work as I have several thousand partners for all my sites.

>There are currently quite a few threads where people are complaining about either not being indexed or dropping massively in the SERPS. I'm starting to worry about competitor sabotage.

This scares the hell out of me. I thought they could not affect your ranking, unless they tried harder to be on top of you.

I would love to find out how they got my site dropped.

The funny thing is most pages are indexed and cached, I still have good PR, but they dropped all my backlinks.

Alltheweb: over 7000 links
Altavista: less 1000 links
Google: 0 links
MSN: over 1000 links

bucaro

3:08 am on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Something new I just noticed. when I type [domain.com...]
I get PR 0, but [domain.com...] gets PR 6.

I would like to know what type of penalty is this.

kpaul

3:18 am on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Something new I just noticed. when I type [domain.com...]
I get PR 0, but [domain.com...] gets PR 6.

I would like to know what type of penalty is this.

As far as I know, that isn't a penalty. Google (correctly) sees those as two different locations. Have the server change any incoming to domain.com to www.domain.com.

bucaro

3:40 am on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thanks kpaul,

The strange thing is for my other sites the all have PR for [site.com...] and [site.com...]

I will place a redirect for [site.com...] to [site.com...] anyways.

anybody else has another opinion?

thanks again

g1smd

9:00 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The redirect is fine, but also make sure that all of your incoming links only point to one domain or the other.

Write to those sites that link to you with the "wrong" link and get them to change it.

bucaro

9:46 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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g1smd:

It is going to be a lot of work, but I guess it has to be done.

bucaro

11:02 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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New Development!

I was just point out by one of my link partner to another site that effectively mirrors mine. He copied main parts and all my link exchanges and is now persuing reciprocal links.

I am almost convinced that this is the reason for my penalty. What can I do?

cayleyv

10:09 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Unfortunately, many people can copy your website and the only way you will ever find out is by either stumbling upon it or someone else pointing it out to you. This appears to be the way competitors can penalize you.

Amazing how the factors of relying on one traffic source (G) and something as simple as copying your site can wreak havoc on an unsuspecting businessperson. I hope INktomi handles this better.

bucaro

10:31 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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cayleyv,

This is really frustraring. Now I am considering the legal options I have, but that won't help to get my ranking back.