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Just Bought New Domain - ends up was previously owned

Ack! After some research I noticed this domain was a spammer

     

optisoft

4:44 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I bought a new domain, bought hosting, designed a layout, created a link structure, began building custom content pages from research. Then begin to attract freshbot to get indexed quick. I do the search for my domain name thing, like I do to all my sites every hour ( to check for fresh tag, and look for updates ( more stats u have the better, u know)). Well it turns out I find a ton of pages that a) redirect to a sponser ( cloaking? ) and b) are keyword stuffed. This can be easily found. However, what worries me is that these pages have copyright 2002 www.thesiteijustbought.com at the bottom. It looks like a bot crawled this domain, and copied the pages to many kw spam sites. The pages are really really kw spammy, that have copyright 2002 www.thesiteijustbought.com at the bottom. I know theres no way to tell if the domain is blacklisted with google. I hope I dont get any massive penalties from my domains predecessor. Any thoughts? At least take this as a warning to research a domain before you invest into it, nowadays I bet millions of domains are poping up with the same scenario.

Tomas

4:57 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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May be it's good for you if it's already in the index. Moreover, if it was indexed before does it have PR?

optisoft

5:00 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It has pr0 and is not in the index :\ The most recent dates I can track it back to is 2002; Im hoping that its track record has diminished in the last 10 months.

mayor

8:02 am on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Check it's backlinks in AllTheWeb. If the site has a bunch of backlinks showing in AllTheWeb, and none showing in Google, it's probably banned forever. You could write Google but I doubt they'll erase the penalty and let you benefit from all those backlinks that they probably considered illegitimate.

rfgdxm1

2:44 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>You could write Google but I doubt they'll erase the penalty and let you benefit from all those backlinks that they probably considered illegitimate.

I presume that this domain had expired, and he bought it from a registrar. The Google expired domains filter system should ignore all old backlinks, and remove the penalty.

mayor

10:04 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Didn't know there was such a filter, rfgdxm.

Any idea when it kicks in?

I've got a domain that must have been penalized for link farm membership a couple years ago. I'd love to erase all the bad backlinks that are still hanging around, but can't. There's too many. If I let the domain expire for a few days, will that be the magic button that cleans the slate and lets me start fresh?

rfgdxm1

10:15 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is complicated mayor. I remember GoogleGuy commenting that Google had programmed things such the filter didn't kick in if the case was a domain owner temporarily let it lapse. You could try writing Google to lift the penalty if the link farm era predates you.

Nicola

1:11 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am wondering about Google's filtering system. I reported about 70+ expired domains which were all around the PR4 or PR5 mark. Each domain's index was set to provide PR for many pornographic websites. 100% of the expired domains were non-adult and maintained their previous backward links from other non-adult websites.

Each page was almost identical to the next. Each domain was not developed beyond the index where the most PR would be.

I have two questions:-

1. How long does it take for Google to react to spam reports of this size (70+ domains)?

2. Why doesn't Google penalise the porn sites which are attempting to benefit from this bogus PR?

Nicola

1:16 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to post twice.

But when and if Google penalise the expired domains, all the pornographer has to do is to purchase fresh expired domains.

If you nail the "mother-ship" domain which is benefitting from this activity it will make these spammers think twice about trying to gain PR in this way again.

Otherwise this practice will always continue.

davester28

1:25 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"If you nail the "mother-ship" domain which is benefitting from this activity it will make these spammers think twice about trying to gain PR in this way again."

This would never happen. Google will not penalize the "recipient" of a link, as it's consider out of their control who links to them...

Nicola

1:47 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see what you mean davester28 :)

All the expired domains contain a phrase similar to "Get Your Porno from ********.com" and if you search for this on Google using quotes, all of the expired non-adult domains show up, of which there are 70+. Each domain shows almost exactly the same page.

My main question is, what will Google do, and how long would they generally take to do it?

dougmcc1

2:21 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mayor and rfgdxm1, I believe the site owner (or whois information) needs to change in addition to the domain expiring in order for previous backlinks and penalties to be removed.

iThink

12:38 am on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My main question is, what will Google do, and how long would they generally take to do it?

Simple answer is nothing. Don't expect any action on spam reports related to expired domains. 2 domains that I reported in July and then again in September are still there.

I wonder if they even read the spam reports. When I submit a spam report, after pressing the submit button I'm 'thrown' on google's index page. They don't even have a basic intermediate page to tell people that their spam report has been received and it will be promptly sent to blackhole.

iThink

12:50 am on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for posting in an old thread. Don't know why this 1 month old thread was there in "Newer" threads at the bottom of some other thread.
 

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