Is the Google PR Dead?

I have just read an article about google buying Kaltix ..

[designhaus]

I have just read an article about google buying Kaltix, a three-month-old, three-man Stanford startup that's working on personalized and context-sensitive search. the article rates the RIP of the google page rank highly.

I personally have found the Google PR very quirky. I have two sites which both get traffic. One gets about half the other. One has a PR of 4 and the other has nothing. They have both been going the same amount of time.

Is the Google PR Dead?
How long does it take to get a PR if its not?

[Arnett]

I personally have found the Google PR very quirky.

Before the recent "upgrades" Google was very good at maintaining the backlinks and PR of pages and sites. Since though,the maintenance of these factors has been slipshod and downright sloppy.

Be careful. PageRank is only one of over 100 factors that Google considers when figuring search result position. PageRank's importance has been steadily diminishing over the past few years. It is not the most important ranking factor to consider but important enough to make it worth working into your SEO strategy.

[dirkz]

PageRank is only one of over 100 factors

Agreed. If you apply an 80/20 rule (80% of results are achieved with 20% of the factors) the most important things are probably incoming links and anchor text.

This will help you with any SE. Gaining PR is just a side effect. Even if PR will die, inbound links bring visitors.

How long does it take to get a PR if its not?

Having PR and the display of Toolbar PR are two completely different things. With a fresh site chances are that the Toolbar sill shows PR0 while the page already ranks high in the SERPs.

You can only gain PR by getting links from sites with PR. Depending on the PR of the linking site the timeframe of "getting" the PR can easily be more than 4 weeks.

[shrirch]

If the google purchase atleast kills the "why is my PR 0" type posts across virtually every site that caters towards webmasters AND kills the idea that you will never link to someone unless they link back to you from a PR5 page with less than 10 links, the money spent by google is well spent.

[vitaplease]

I wonder if Google leaves enough senior staff at Stanford to educate the next generation for future recruiting rounds..

>>the article rates the RIP of the google page rank highly

sorry, what do you mean by "RIP"?

[zeus]

Rest in peace - it is mostly seen on tombstones.

zeus

[vitaplease]

Thanks zeus,

designhaus, any link to that article that wasn't mentioned in this thread?

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[ogletree]

I am wondering if PR is dead or at least new PR. When I first started in April if you got a PR7 you did well in the SERPS now I finaly get a PR7 and several PR6's and nothing. Does PR mean anything anymore. I have noticed that sites that have PR from before April still seem to benefit from it. I have one site that has PR from the old days and it does better then a site that just got a higher PR. The only reason the site from the old days ranks number 2 for a term is that it is an anchor link to the newer site. Some of my anchor text links do better than the sites they are pointing at. The anchor text is the only instance of that phrase on that page and it is number 2. I wonder if Google is giving new PR less value until it has been around a little while. Maybe they give a little more value to it each month after you get it.

[airpal]

Ogletree, I'm assuming your anchor text is the exact same as the title and h1 heading on your destination page. If so, then it means that more people have more and higher PR anchor text links coming into their sites. A high PageRank page with "good" inbound linking anchor text and "good" on-page optimization is the killer combo and will make competing pages tremble in fear! So if this is what you're doing, in short time, you'll see your results pay off (literally). :)

[rfgdxm1]

>Be careful. PageRank is only one of over 100 factors that Google considers when figuring search result position.

And, PR has never been worth less than today. Given a choice between one PR7 link, and a dozen links from teenagers with PR4 pages *with the exact, keyword laden anchor text* that I want to optimize for, I'll take the links from the teenagers. This is what ticks me off so much about people whining here they can't get listed in the ODP. If instead of whining here they spent the same time asking for links from teenager's home pages with perfect anchor text, they'd have gotten a lot more Google ranking boost than that ODP would have given them. The key to Google now is lots of links from different sites with keyword rich anchor text.