subdomains exploiting google loophole

you can dominate serps with subdomains.

[cabbie]

Google has sometimes put 2 pages of the one site together in its SERPS but always filtered out anymore.You might see widgets.com/blue and widgets.com/red together but never more than two.In the adult area there is a new trick of having bluewidgets.widgets.com/blue and bluewidgets.widgets.com/red as well widgets.com/blue and widgets.com/red .In fact I have seen over 6 of the same site in the first page results.
I would do it myself but I think if it became too common Googles serps would be laughable.

[paulk]

i know what you are talking about. I'm seeing lots of domination using these techniques for competitive adult phrases. Won't last long, but by the time google bans him, the guy will make bank.

pk

[moltar]

I am seeing stuff like:
super.cool.blue.and.red.very.nice.widgets.com domains sometimes. And many of them!

[Gus_R]

I saw sites related with my activity monopolizing serps from pages 1-2 to 10+!.

Some with a hundred subdomains in a row.

Typical appearance:
country.city.keywordsbrand.com

[Yidaki]

>subdomains exploiting google loophole
>you can dominate serps with subdomains.

Erm, ... this is a damn old technique like keyword stuffed alt text or any other short term stuff.

FWIW i just want to throw my comment on subdomains before the complains get too wild - don't want to let some bad light shine onto the good old canonicals: using subdomains (canonicals) is a commonly used set up - since ages. It's perfectly legit in many cases. What you see is *somebody* uses subdomains to get double listings. Double listings have always been penalized / removed by google's algo - me, i have no doubt that you will see the same happen to the mentioned examples.

Just please don't complain about subdomains in general, ok!?

IMHO, the title of this thread would be better named:

Abuse of Subdomains
Does manipulative use of canonicals help?

[vincevincevince]

I've long used subdomains for SEO purposes - not in a spam way "keyword.keyword.domain.com", but in a useful way "section_of_site.domain.com" which allows me to optimise and promote each distinct and standalone part of a site seperately for their own keywords. It's hard to target keywords1 and keywords2 for domain.com - you end up half way up on both, with a title/snippet which suits neither best. It's better to target the content about keywords1 at keywords1 from one subdomain, and use another subdomain for the other. Am I spamming? I think not, it certainly feels not - and many links etc point directly to the most relevant subdomain.

I really hope the spamming usage of this will not become a problem, as if it does, then my usage will like as not be caught within the same filters, and penalised. If google were to penalise this they should only do so after a hand review.

[Gus_R]

I don't see this as an abuse just google should list them grouped.
If I'm searching "keyword": what difference city.keyword.com vs keyword.com/city?

[Yidaki]

>I don't see this as an abuse just google should list them grouped.
>what difference city.keyword.com vs keyword.com/city?

- city.keyword.com is ONE domain / website
- keyword.com/city is ANOTHER domain / website

Google dosn't group across different domains - therefor only a duplicate filter can spot this. And if it's a intentional duplicate, it's abuse. ;)

<added>
Hehehehe, nice related discussion about subdomains going on right now at this thread: Could google be penalising me for having too many sites? [webmasterworld.com]. Let's talk about abuse of canonical's. ;)
</added>

[Gus_R]

Yidaki: you could be penalized for thread crosslinking! :)

I found allinurl:domain.com/page.html with 1000+ results.
Pages almost duplicated, same ip, same domain.

[Yidaki]

>I found allinurl:domain.com/page.html with 1000+ results.

Gus, do you mean you found

#1 domain.com/page.html
#2 domain.com/page.html
#3 domain.com/page.html
....
# 999 domain.com/page.html
#1000 domain.com/page.html
...?

Impossible imho. At least i never saw such.

>same ip, same domain.

... and obvisously no subdomain issue.

Or did i miss your point?

[Gus_R]

subdomain1.samedomain.com/samepagename.html
...
subdomain1000.samedomain.com/samepagename.html

not ranking as well as last months.