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With the new google - what to do now?

Link exchanges better on home page?

         

johnnydequino

1:19 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have about 20 outbound links on my home page. They are link exchanges with 20 PR4 and higher sites, all linked on their home pages.

Sites are on topic. I am in the Yahoo directory as well.

Right now no PR, and average search rankings. So....

What do I do now? Sit and wait for google to calculate my page rank? My rankings are just ok - even against PR3 sites. I am doing this right? How will the new google treat me?

jd

pmac

1:28 am on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Right now no PR, and average search rankings<

I wouldn't be bothered what the toolbar says, it's been out of whack for a while now. Keep building content and getting quality inbound links to your site.

martinibuster

1:44 am on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This thread kind of seems suited for the link forum, but... I think that 20 outbounds on the home page is a bit much. I'm not saying that you should bury the links, but from a PR circulation strategy, you are putting yourself in the situation of diluting the PR going inbound into your different directories.

I'm in favor of a link plan where you circulate PR to your key pages then have one or two sections for outbounds.

Depending on your website topics, you can conceivably create mini-sites within your site, then funnel relative inbounds into those sections. A great way to increase directory listings.

Building up authority within Google has been a waiting a game, and it seems as if this trend is still continuing. Remember, not all sites are gettting crawled and updated on a continuous basis.

netnerd

11:01 am on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Got me thinking.

I am developing 20 sites which are in a particular field but are directories of various aspects of that field.

The field is wide enough so that each site is completely different in terms of content and subject.

How do i best interlink them?

I think it is fair to do so as they are related but by no means identical and would be of use to users of each site.

Marketing Guy

11:45 am on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If the information is related why not put it all in one site?

It's not that hard to organise related content in a large site.

Im going to assume that you are creating 20 smallish sites (20 to 50 pages) and want to interlink them for some sort of pagerank / backlink benefit?

Fair play, but smaller sites have a tougher time getting one way incoming links and retaining visitors.

A single, larger site is a much more power tool these days.

Out of interest (general question to the board) - how do you think webmasterworld would perform in terms of stickyness if each forum was a seperate site?

In my not-so-humble opinion, networks of *cough* niche market, targetted sites are old and kinda "last years big thing".

Id much rather a single comprehensive resource than numerous single topic sites.

But that's just me. :)

Back to the original topic:

>How will the new google treat me?

In the same cold uncaring way that it treats the rest of us and always has done! :P

I agree with Martinibuster - 20 oubound links sounds a bit much for your homepage. You have to consider how much traffic you will lose compared to what you will gain from the new Google...

Same rule applies as did 6 months ago - forget about google and build a decent site.

Scott

netnerd

12:03 pm on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree that one big site is nice and good for getting incomeing links. However, i am in a very very competitive field where the url has had definate benefits for getting a high page ranking in the serps.

Im pretty confident that this approach will work better in terms of getting ranks,etc and i can cross link them with genuine , related links rather than having to depend on links from mass link pages on other peoples sites.

That said, i am intending to do an overall site which links to them all by topic so that i can promote this separately.

My main question was - how is it best to cross link these sites?

johnnydequino

12:12 pm on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Netnerd - I actually agree with you. I used to have one gigantic site, but since I spawed off several tiny sites my listing have been better.

This is what I have done, and it has worked well with the gigantic site, great with one tiny site, and another tiny site is lagging. (Reason why I started this thread)

Link to your sites at the top of you gigantic site. It gets you spidered quickly.

On one of my tiny sites, I put a link back to my gigantic site on every page, over 50. I thought this would help my tiny site; it didn't. It actually help my gigantic site go up in page rank and the serps! Go figure.

jd

johnnydequino

12:16 pm on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have about 15 outbound links on every page on my site, except for the links page which has about 40.

All sites are PR4 or above, and I have a link on their home page as well. (The 15)

I would think google should eat this up. I don't mind losing traffic for a higher page rank right now. This way, hopefully the higher page rank pulls up the other sites, which it has, and the traffic increase for them.

The only thing that stinks (amoung others) about google is my site has no page rank, but is on google about average on the SERPS. With no page rank, it's tough to get anyone to link to you of quality. I have emailed, talked, discussed with about 400 sites, and managed to get 50 sites to link with me.

I would imagine once google assigns a page rank, my acceptence should go up. Until then, I guess I will be treated like a red headed step child.

jd

2_much

1:00 pm on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree that you shouldn't place all your outbound links on the home page. Perhaps you can create a "resources" page to link out to other sites, or work them into the content of an existing page.

As to what to do now...You've heard this before and you'll hear it again, but all you need to do is keep adding pages to your site and requesting links. The more links you have, the more "link power" you gain. Once you have 1 site that is well established, then it's easy to bring the rest up. Also, by continuously adding links to the site, when you add new keyword rich content, your site will rank for a vast variety of keywords.

As to how to interlink your 20 sites. You can link them togethter, but you have to be careful that they don't create a close network. One way to do this is to build up one site and give it link power, and then you can use that site to link to your others. Then you can link randomly between those other 20 sites (up to 10 inbound links each), and then you'd have to get a few inbound links to each of the URL's so it dilutes the map.

That's just what I would do.

netnerd

1:05 pm on Aug 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2_much, do you think it would be 2_much (pardon the pun) to put amenu at the bottom of each page of each site pointing to say 10 others inthe network if i varied it?@