Less and less pages listed in Google...

... none left today when I looked

[le_gber]

Hi,

I just need your thoughts on what are the possible causes of this and what I should do.

I started as a company 8 months ago and bought a domain name which reflects the company name. All the corporate stationary include this domain so I can't just dump it.

Since I install a log analizer on my site google has been less and less visiting my site(the other SE/bots don't have any pb with it though).

At its peak, 8 pages were listed in G SERP. Today no pages at all are listed in the datacenters and I haven't seen Gbot for the past month. The site is Pr0 and has always been.

I never used spam techniques or anything 'dodgy' and I tried everything even resubmitting the site map page but nothing does. I've developped a couple of links I tried to contact google with this subject but no answer so far.

Now my questions are:
What do you guy think is the cause of this?
What do you guys think I should do?

For the latter I've had a thought and came up with these 2 possibilities:

Buy another domain name (close to the one I've got) and set up the site on it. Put a ban on Gbot on the old domain and a ban on all the the other bot on the new one and only submit the new to G?

Buy another domain name submit it to G and put a ban on Gbot on the old. Once G picked it up set up a 301 redirect from old to new and cross my fingers? BTW will this transfer PR from linking sites?

Any alternative ideas?

Thanks

Leo

[claus]

if it's the site in your profile, this character was always ignored in G: "-"

However there are a few sites with very similar domain names and searching without "-" yields a new site?

>> I've developped a couple of links

Alltheweb says this:
Find all 11,792 external web pages that link to "URL"
Find all 12 external web pages that contain the term "URL"
Find all 30 web pages indexed under "URL"

So you've been pretty productive with link development in the 8 months it seems - or perhaps your competitors are spamming guestbooks for you big time...

Perhaps it's some duplicate thing... there's quite a few sites with similar names, as i mentioned. Can't think of anything else right now.

/claus

[le_gber]

Yes it's the site in my profile.

The all the web results are coming from a site that has a .uk.com domain name and not the -uk.com.

The links are on google: Dmoz, WebmasterWorld, an a couple is missing from a well know tutorial site for which I wrote reviews (PR8 site)

So what do you guys reckon I should do?

Leo

[trillianjedi]

Looking at your backlinks, I can't see how your PR0 could not be a penalty. But I can't see any reason for the penalty off hand.

Have you tried emailing google?

TJ

[claus]

It's a tough one. I guess, since there is another site with a close-to identical domain name, that you might have been reported for abuse.

The other firm, it seems from their home page, has now got another company name, and as you have a company name identical to the url, your legal standing might be better - nevertheless, they might have a case for using that domain name as they do have a very large collection of backlinks, so they've probably been in business using that name before you started.

They might be able to state that you chose your company name as an act of speculation against them, but i really don't know how courts would handle this.

Perhaps you should try to make a peaceful deal with the other company somehow if you can. But do write to Google and document that this is actually your company name, so you have a legal right to use it.

/claus

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added:

Out of the options you mentioned in post 1, #1 seems to be nearly impossible as the "close-to-domains" are in the SERPS already:

1) Buy another domain name (close to the one I've got)
2) Buy another domain name

[le_gber]

I didn't know about the other company but I knew they were doing a lot of backlinking when I looked for the reason that may have caused my site to get PR0.

I've emailed google twice and only get automated response and another saying this will go to one of their engineers.

As for the domain name I don't mind keeping the existing one and buying one close to it and then once G found me 301 forward every traffic to the new one.

Do you think the PR from the link I've got will be transfered?

Leo

[edited because of spelling mistakes]

[edited by: le_gber at 4:06 pm (utc) on Aug. 20, 2003]

[kelvinhui]

Hi Leo,

Please be patient.

3 months ago all my site listings disappeared around 1 weeks, but they re-appeared with higher ranking in Google.

Maybe Google does something for site.

Don't worry.

[le_gber]

Yes I know some site can disappear and other take a couple of months before being spotted but I am convinced that G doesn't like my site for whatever reason :(

I can't see why though!

Leo

[bcolflesh]

It's interesting that is you search G for www.yoursigsite.com it shows:

Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.yoursigsite.com

Then clicking on:

Find web pages that contain the term "www.yoursigsite.com"

Shows links to your site and links to another site that has a period in place of your comma - G seems to think they are the same site in this case.

[le_gber]

That's what I'm afraid of - Need to ask GG to be sure though

In the meantime I think of a new domain name :(

Leo