google searches not found with keywords

keywords not being used in google searches

[mmanning]

Hello:
I have a few questions on how to get google to actually work with my specific keywords that I have chosen. I am not referring to meta keywords, just the keywords I would like to obtain google search results with.

Here is my example:
-I would like to be searched on this value: Red shiny Widgets. My domain name has in it: Red Widgets.
Title: Red shiny Widgets
start of body: shiny red widgets
H1 Tag: Red shiny Widgets
general text: shiny is mentioned near the top. That is it, I do not want to keyword spam.

I get indexed by google and I do not show up on searches:
Red Shiny Widgets.

I have researched my competitor and he set up his page the same way as I did but his searches appear on the top. The funny thing is that his pages appear pretty much on all of the top 3 pages.
Ex: 1. Red Shiny Widgets
2. Red Bland Widges
3. Red green Widgets
etc... etc.

I don't understand?

He is a PR 5 and I do not have a PR. But since his phrases do not even match the search criteria, I don't know why he comes out on top on the first 3 pages. The competitor is the only one with this keyword phrase. No one else has it. So I know for a fact that this is not a 'hot' keyword phrase.

I checked html validation etc. So I know it is not that. I also put some great content on my pages, much better than his, but I cannot get listed.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike

[the_nerd]

does your page show up for any other key words?

[mmanning]

Yes, the searches do show up for different keywords based on the rest of my text on the page:
Ex: Widgets that are Red in December

Mike

[Gus_R]

Think about how competitives are keywords combinations, then pr is critical.
Not the same: kw-a + kw-b = 100000 results against kw-a + kw-c = 5000000 results.

[takagi]

Hi Mike, Welcome to WebmasterWorld.

If your site is the one I think it is, then your title is like: 'Red shiny Widget - Discount Red shiny Widgets', the first line 'Discount Red shiny Widgets' and the H1-tag 'Find Red shiny Widgets'. So that doesn't help your site to rank good for the real 3 keywords.

BTW, the SERP (Search Enginge Results Page) tells you the 'Red shiny Widgets' have 1M+ hits in Google's data base. So there is quite some competition for this set of keywords. It seems you also try to be found for 'Red shiny Widget' with 300k hits.

[Mohamed_E]

> My domain name has in it: Red Widgets.

Mike,

Assuming that your site is what I think it is, it is a single monster non-word. shinyredwidgets.com has in it the single non-word "shinyredwidgets", neither "shiny", "red" nor "widget" gets parsed out of it. Makes sense, therapist.com should really not match "rapist"!

[mmanning]

Takagi:
Thanks for you comments. You did find one of my sites, but the one I am actually has the similar problem that I posted here.

I will follow your advice and stick to putting my keyword strings in the exact order in what I want them to be found:
Title: Red Shiny Widgets
H1: Red Shiny Widgets
body text: Red Shiny Widgets

Thanks,
Mike

[IITian]

If it is the site I think it is, it was ranked #63 when i searched using quotes (") around your 3-word phrase. Of course, almost nobody will search using quotes, though.

Like others have pointed out, you will have to separate out the keywords. Even after that you will have to optimimize it further probably.

[added]Also, widget is not the same as widgets! Try to optimize for both combinations and increase the frequency of your phrase in the text. [/added]

[Chndru]

If it is the site I think it is,

how you guys guess it?

[trillianjedi]

how you guys guess it?

A combination of voodoo and spell-casting (and a little *profile*ing..... ;-)

You will need a lot of "red shiny widgets" anchor text also in your backlinks. You're in a competitive market.

TJ

[Mohamed_E]

how you guys guess it?

Check the user profile. You will not find a web site, but the email address is suggestive.

Of course, when a member has multiple sites, we may end up guessing the wrong one :)

[twilight47]

He is a PR 5 and I do not have a PR. But since his phrases do not even match the search criteria, I don't know why he comes out on top on the first 3 pages.

The phrases could be heavy in their anchor text.

[mmanning]

Thank you for all of your suggestions. They are great. I took out my email address from my profile. I did not want to cause a problem.

Thanks all,
Mike

[Mohamed_E]

I took out my email address from my profile. I did not want to cause a problem.

I believe that there is nothing in the TOS against publishing an email address that has the same domain as a web site. Would a mod or admin care to comment?

[pearl]

Your domain name means NOTHING in SERPs.

I have many one word names that never ranked without WW tricks.

Pearl

[Yidaki]

>I took out my email address from my profile
>I believe that there is nothing in the TOS against

It's not a bad idea to stay a little bit below the radar at least if you're in a competitive field.