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This is good stuff!
Added: Credits to Henk van Ess who found it first!
[edited by: HitProf at 8:56 pm (utc) on Aug. 4, 2003]
From an SEO perspective that does not really help much, as the overwhelming majority of users will not use it.
My own biggest problem is with abbreviations, not synonyms. Users often include the state in their search, either spelled in full or abbreviated (about half do each). Also about half search for "mount widget", while the other half searches for "mt. widget".
From an SEO perspective that does not really help much,
As if! Bet your bottom dollar that google will start using this in a watered down verson in normal searches - optimised to get the mix just right to increase search field, but not to decrease relevancy. Pretty much certain.
This tool will allow the canny SEO to find all the ~synonyms for their top key words/phrases ACCORDING to google - and optimise for them.
My bet for future google will be:
Current factors + A x Relevancy of page to original search term + B x Relevancy of page to synonym term, where B << A.
i.e. by having synonmyms on your page as well as the original term, you will show it's really a page about the subject area, more likely to be a good proper page.
so ~get them synonyms and drop them into your pages!
I have a keyword in form of internetKeyword (in German). Looking at ~internetKeyword -internetKeyword I see that for Google internetKeyword is the same as internet Keyword.
I always pondered about that because most sites for internetKeyword in the top ten don't have internetKeyword on their pages. But they do have internet and Keyword on their pages.
Now I finally got the confirmation that Google looks at those words as if they were the same.
"Used" was in a sentence on one of the SERPS
This used to be a great.....
(nothing to do with discounting, in fact it would be impossible to have a used version of my keyword since it's a product that liquidates as soon as manufactured)
Agree that this tool is best for finding the synonyms google USERS may use when researching , but not expecting huge use of the ~
Anyone able to guess what "~" could actually be doing to the results?
I intially thought that the "widgets" word would be the only one ranking is based on, with ~foo used to reduce the intial set of results - but you can get MORE results by using the "~".
I remember Google was working on word combinations in Google.de some time ago.
Google highlights (and finds) the seperated words as well when searching for the combination. Try a search for CombinedKeywords - CombinedKeywords. The results stay the same when you add a ~ (at least in the filesharing example I tried).
'widget ~foo' returns results for 'widget foo', 'widget foos', 'widget foobar' and 'widget foo-synonyms' so it'll return more results than a search for 'widget foo'.
Uhm.. does it? I found one that returned less results but I can't reproduce that one right now :(
Sometimes it also includes widgets and widget-synonyms in the results.
However, doing a one word search for "~widgets" actually returns less results than just "widgets"
I see it too, and it's difficult to find out why. First I thought a page needs at least 2 (different?) hits to show up in the SERPs. But I can also find pages with only one hit (maybe anchor text, file-name, etc. also counts?).
For image-search the new search operator is not (yet) working. :(
I wish more and more people utilize advanced search options, rather than complain about 'it doesn't find anything useful':(. i wud bet 1% of the users ever use it. G shud do something about it..make it more user friendly or well-accessible for common..hit-get-results-kind-of-surfers.
This command might offer up some valuable information from a theming perspective. Now, I realize most everyone pays theming very little attention, because that's what it seems Google does.
Not proposing that this little command means Google is about to change how they rank, but it might be an indicator that they're considering themes, after all, why else would they implement it? As an end user convenience? (even if thatís the case itís not unimportant to us)
Anyway, from poking around with the tilde, it seems for some of my terms (let's say, term1) there is quite often a predominantly associated term (let's say, a term2), that you wouldn't necessarily expect (related, but not seemingly any more related than a number of other terms).
For some term1's there appear to be no pattern, and the associated terms are fairly spread about the spectrum. But for some there is definitely a term2 that comes up predominantly in the SERPS.
What I'm wondering is, if Google were to implement any type of theme based model, would it be in our best interests to build sites around term2, in order to support sites going after term1? Will Google see a closer association between these two terms, and therefore consider both sites to be better themed if they are linked up?
I can see Google returning a SERP for term1 basing the results on sites that offer more than just information on term1, but perhaps a balance of information about associated terms. Maybe finding those balances, on page and off, will become a more important aspect of SEO (it's already an aspect, for certain).
The 'associated terms' I've seen so far are definitely not simply synonyms. Some are, but some are just closely tied terms. ie. for <snip>
I have noticed, the sets are often very limited. Perhaps my thinking that there is a predominant term2 is really just a result of the set being so limited.
<added:>A localization/usability problem: Italian keyboards have no ~ key. :)
And I guess that very few non-geek people here know that you have to keep the ALT key pressed while typing the ASCII code "126" on the numeric keypad to generate a tilde.
So please make sure you put a detailed explanation on Google Italia's advanced search functions page when you eventually update it with the new operator.</added>
[edited by: Giacomo at 10:31 pm (utc) on Aug. 5, 2003]
I believe I did, but I think I came across it in "Google Hacks". It may be on the Google site, but I am not sure where. Is there an exclusive club to which one needs to belong to find these gems, or is it a zen thing and is it only when you don't actively seek it that it seeks you? In a nutshell how does the average "internaut" gain access to "the secret Google"?