Google PageRank, no pages indexed

How is it possible to have a PageRank without having any sites in database?

[yowza]

How is it possible to have a PageRank without having any sites in the Google database?

My site has been up for 4 months with an inbound link from another of my high ranking sites. I also submitted it via google's submission page. All of my other sites have been indexed within two months under the same conditions.

I assume that if the site has a PageRank value it would have to be in the index. Yet, it is not in the index.

None of my other sites have ever been penalized. Everything is done by the book. Besides, if I were banned, wouldn't my pagerank go to zero?

Thanks in advance!

[takagi]

Hi Yowza, Welcome to WebmasterWorld.

For a page to have PageRank, it must have a docID in Google's index (repository). So it can only have a PageRank if the page is indexed. Recently there was a thread [webmasterworld.com] about a page that wouldn't show up on a site search (search for 'site:www.domain.com -asdf') but did show up on the info command ('info:www.domain.com'). So in rare cases it seems to be posible to have a docID without appearing in the SERPs for a normal search.

A few months ago there were also problems with the toolbar sometimes showing the PR of the previous page. But I guess that problem is solved now. So that doesn't apply to your question.

Then there is also guessed PR for sub pages not known to Google. But that only works if a page higher in the directory structure has PR; not for a home page.

[Grregorr]

I have exactly the same situation with my homepage. It has a rank of 4. What's more, the page copy cached by Google is quite fresh, but still the page does not appear in SERP. And I do not think any kind of spamming is an issue here.

[yowza]

"Recently there was a thread about a page that wouldn't show up on a site search (search for 'site:www.domain.com -asdf') but did show up on the info command ('info:www.domain.com')."

My page doesn't show up on a site search or using the info command.

I know it is not the toolbar showing the previous page PR, or an automatic PR for my subpage problem either.

Any other ideas?

Thanks

[swerve]

My site has been up for 4 months with an inbound link from another of my high ranking sites. I also submitted it via google's submission page. All of my other sites have been indexed within two months under the same conditions.

This does seem strange, especially the first part. If the linking page on your high ranking site has decent PageRank (more than 4), I would expect the new site pages to be added to the index within less than a week. That has been my experience with Google recently. When I launched a new site, 3 weeks ago, I linked to it from another site. Within 2 days, all 30 pages were in the index, and have remained there since. 4 months is a long time....about 1 month B.D. (before Dominic)...