google keyword problem

[fscanf]

This is my first post on this website, I would just like to say hi to everyone who reads this thread. I am unfamiliar as to what category this question actully falls in so I will ask it here. (Any mods read this please tell me if its in the right place). Now, i have read the TOS of this website and know that even talking about <specific types of sites> is not advised.

I am the webmaster of a site, but the question I have is regarding keywords on google. For my site I have been reading a lot of SEO techniques to enhance my placement on search engines. From what I have read, google mainly relies on sites that link back to you. The main problem is that my site doesnt even show up on the search engine itself. I have submitted my site to google about 3 months ago, and when i type in my keywords (which happen to be the same as the domain name), my site isnt even listed on ANY of the pages. Not even on page 25,30.. etc.

Is there anything that I am doing wrong? Does it really take google over 3 months to add my site to its index? Any help would be appreciated.

[edited by: Marcia at 8:09 pm (utc) on July 25, 2003]
[edit reason] Specifics not necessary to the question. [/edit]

[Ally_Cat]

try a search for allinurl:www.(yourdomain).com and see if anything comes up. Have you looked at your logs to see if Google has crawled your site at all yet?

[fscanf]

Hi there,

I haven't checked my weblogs as of yet, and when I typed in my domain using the allinurl command as you said my site comes up. Now, for the keywords that I am using are in my site title and I also have the keywords in the body of the front page.

I do know however, that I can see a cached version of my site from google, so I am pretty sure that google has hit it at least once.

[SirFroggZ]

Are you listed in DMOZ?

[fscanf]

As a matter of fact I don't believe I am. I only say this becase I just submitted to them yesterday. As you can probably tell I am pretty new to this, although I thought just a submission to google a few months ago would make my site appear on the index. I am going to read the thread about the frequency of google spidering to see if this can bring to light any questions I have. Thanks

[HitProf]

Hi fscanf,

Welcome on board! If your homepage is in the index Googlebot will come back anyway. Don't bother about the frequency, that depends on too many factors to predict anything.

If your home page is the only page in the index, your problem may be in your own links. You need plain html links to you inner pages from your home page. If it's a framed site, it helps if you have a noframes section with links to the main pages. If you use javascript links, add a noscript section with the links in plain html.

If more of your pages are in the index but they don't show up for your keywords, then you have some serious optimisation to do. Aslo depends on the competition for those words of course, it's easier to show up for non competitive keywords.

Try to get good quality links anyway, that will never harm you.

[IITian]

One option is command

site:domainname -xyzabc

This is return indexed pages that don't contain the word 'xyzabc'

Second one is to search for an expanded keyword list that only a few - perhaps only one - that is your page contains.

Instead of searching for keyword1 and looking carefully, try searching for keyword1 keyword2 or keyword1 keyword2 keyword3 ...

If you can find your page, then you need to work on optimizing for keyword1!

In my case it took about 2 months for other pages to be indexed after the index page.

[fscanf]

You could be right that the problem might lie within my own links, but since its "one of those sites", i am required to ask age verification upon entering. From there, all my pages are linked using images and not plain text. Would you recommend using plain text links instead of image links within the site itself?

Above a member asked me to do an allinurl:www.(mysite).com and all that showed up was the index page of the site. Would that mean that the rest of the site wasn't indexed by google because of the internal linking problem of my site?

By the way, the site does not have frames and I have spent quite some time building up recriprocal links to my site from other sites of the same nature. I know those wont count towards my ranking until the bot goes through their sites and finds a link to my site.

[kamikaze Optimizer]

...and I have spent quite some time building up recriprocal links to my site from other sites...

Recriprocal? Hmm...

[Marval]

fscanf - from experience wih "those" type of sites, you will do best getting the DMOZ link. Since you need the in-between page for verification, the only way to get the rest of the pages spidered is to have them linked from another page that gets around that middle page. Sticky mail on its way :)

[HitProf]

Marval is right: you need links to your inner pages that can be followed by Google (and other spiders). The images are not a real problem but it helps if you put a text (keyword) below each picture. Use alt="" for your image and title="" for your link (although it seems the alt tag is no longer being indexed).