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Bloggers too are likely to welcome their very own tab as a legitimization of the publishing format
Not to sure about that.
What will we see soon, a Blog tab? [webmasterworld.com]
and what will be the clear definition of a blog?
I'll be happy to see the last of "blog only" sites in the main index anyway, I see no point in them.
I can't wait to see the definition for that. Some of the best analysis and commentary on the web comes from bloggers.
To me it looks like bloggers have shown Google what SEOs have known for a long time. PR is easy to manipulate. Rather than admit that PageRank is flawed Google has opted to shunt an important section of the web into a "tab".
Screw information, commentary and analysis, sell more widgets. ;) I bet Google won't turn down Adword money from bloggers.
It will be interesting to see how Google discerns between a CMS and a blog.
I would expect Google would filter intelligently using a mixture of factors - possibly centred on link patterns, which seem to have a certain "character" for blogs.
There are several dozen blogs with original excellent content (I can think of several just off hand written by journalists, academics, professors who have actually managed to turn the "personal diary" into something more than their freinds to read) that deserves to be on the main google search instead of being lost in a tab filled up with the remaining 99% of discountinued, perosnal-writing-therapy, narcissitic, cat-lovers and family blogs. How Google filters is critical. It would be a pity to see sites like Andrew Goodman's and many others categorized with the crud and banished from exposure to information and news seekers.
That said, i would think a lot who follow Google's indexing strategy on WebmasterWorld saw this coming for quite a while. A "Blog" tab i remember was foreseen by several in WebmasterWorld threads after the blogger acquisition.
[edited by: chiyo at 12:05 pm (utc) on May 9, 2003]
I just think this harder to do right then it seems, but who knows, maybe they'll find a way?
[edited by: teeceo at 12:23 pm (utc) on May 9, 2003]
They'll probably keep it within the "community", google will probably try to contain blog data like they do for news and groups.
Good idea actually, the blogging community (clique) will be covered well and others won't have blog skew interfering with results.
joined:Oct 27, 2001
We all know its about the links (and don't give me that "targeted links crap") becouse the bottom line is that if you have thousands of "any kind of links" the fact is that your going to win, period.
For how long?
Maybe the blogs get their own tag, and those who want it can choose a filter to remove all blogs from the search results? Rather than removing them by default.
Personally, i've NEVER had trouble with blogs showing up in my search results. I hardly ever see them. If you examine the hit counter for the average blogs, you can clearly see that they get less than 10-15% of their traffic from search engines. Almost all their traffic comes from links they usually have on at least 20-30 other blogs.
Although personally I hate 99% of all blogs, my site is linked to by several popular blogs. Why should I not recieve that PR boost? A link is a link.
If a site has too many links than google should devalue the importance of a link from that site. Problem solved.
As much as I hate them, a blog is a ligitimate website. No reason to descriminate against them.
Also it's impossible for google to filter out all blogs without attacking non-blog sites that have similiar characteristics.
My personal definition of 99% of blogs are websites that have almost zero content, extremely poor writing, lots of porn and off-site links, and yet still manage to get a fair amount of traffic.
How does google filter that? lol...
I am a bit concerned, though, about sites that use blog software for straight content management. I have a few sites where I've set up a Movable Type system that allows non-technical experts to add articles to their sites. I fear a repeat of the Zeus scenario (a couple of years ago, link directories identified as being created with Zeus got penalized - regardless of actual quality) - an unlucky choice of tools might get your great content banished to blogville.
And as many have already mentioned how do you define "blog" a site that's updated often? has many reference links? is dynamically generated? Hell, will they pull news-sites off? discussion forms? amazon?
Instead of doing something drastic like pulling so called "blogs" off the main index maybe they should change their algorithm... but I think they should leave it alone.
joined:Oct 27, 2001
There is so much roll-your-own blog software out there, that blogs can take any shape or form. I guess the most common definition is "A page of short entries sorted cronologically". I think that would be the one they'll use. Index the site. Watch the content drop down the page. It's a blog. .. Or is it a news page?
I don't think many bloggers would want to be left out of the main index, and seeing as google bought blogger, I don't think google wants a bunch of angry bloggers any time soon, so I think the'll keep them in the main index.
If Google does "drop blogs" (which I personally doubt it will), then people wanting to do the same thing as I spent a couple of hours figuring out will have to work it out themselves instead of using a useful search engine to find out how to do it.
Remember also some of this is purely speculation but it doesn't take a genius to know what they are up to.
Remember the Deja days? They was in the index at one time as well. It's the same thing. People may think deja content should be in the main index too.
Google didn't like blogs so they bought out blogger to get rid of them? ;)
They should be seperate from the index IMO. More manageable as well :-)