Pages listed in Google just halved!

Allinurl: reveals half as many pages as two days ago

[suggy]

Arghh, what's going on? Anyone know why my number of pages listed by allinurl:domain has halved in two days?

Is this everflux or something worse?

Help!

[Nick_W]

>everflux

Probably. When were these pages added?

Nick

[suggy]

Over the last couple of months - I think.

Certainly all this month's pages have gone!

Thanks for you advice

[trillianjedi]

Google has rolled back to last months index that's all.

Sit tight, everything will be back in in about 2 weeks time.

TJ

[suggy]

Hi trillianjedi

Why / when does Google do that? I thought I'd noticed my traffic drop off a cliff!

Thanks for your help...

Suggy

[bigace]

trillianjedi

I didn't know that Google did that. Why would they do it? it seems like a lot of work to reinstall the old index. And If they keep the old one available, it would require twice as much hard drive space.

Also you say Google will continue to use the old index for about 2 weeks.

Does anyone else know something about this.

[Nick_W]

This is not correct ;)

Nick

[trillianjedi]

Sorry guys, just realised I had completely misunderstood one of googleguys old postings. Ignore what I said.... it's not rolled back.

However, what I have noticed is a lot of the freshbot listings seem to have been dropped.

A lot of postings rather indicate that something a *little* strange is happening with google at the moment.

In any event, not a lot you can really analyse until the next index comes into play.

TJ

[suggy]

It certainly does seem something strange is going on. Linked to the next update, perhaps? Any bets on when that will be?

Past experience suggests that we need not wait until late in May. Wasn't there a quicky last April?

Cheers,

Steve

[bigace]

Thanks for the correction. On the other hand I too have noticed that all the freshbot listings that I have been looking at are gone as well.

When I was younger I learned how to tango and loved it, I didn't think I would be learning a new dance at my age. And frankly I don't enjoy the Google dance half as much as I did the tango :-) I can't get my wife to do this one with me but everyone knows it takes two to tango.

[heini]

Suggy, the first thing to do is make sure the pages really are missing. The allinurl may not always work as intended.

Second, check with more than one datacenter.

Third, try to find out exactly which pages are missing (if so). If those are new pages, it might indeed be that they will only be stable in next index.

[trillianjedi]

Heini,

All of the datacentres seemed to be up to date (last time I looked anyway!).

There was a period of about two days when the old freshbot listings were showing up in www-ex and www-sj. Now they seem to be regularised.

I found the original googleguy and Brett threads on this about everflux, changes in between deepcrawl and google dance and the rolling back of indexes. It's here:-

[webmasterworld.com...]

TJ

[suggy]

Hi Heini

There are more pages missing than I added this month.

If I do site:domain keyword, the pages do not show in the results either. Definitely missing?

Don't know how to check another datacenter, I'm afraid.

Thanks for the advice...

Suggy

[heini]

Suggy, any other changes to your site? PR changed, top rankings changed?
If nothing dramatic apart from the pages missing has happened I would just wait for a day or two.

[trillianjedi]

Suggy, just for future reference and interest, you can check another datacentre just by doing your search directly at one, for example:-

www-ex.google.com
www-sj.google.com
www2.google.com
www3.google.com

Instead of going to the usual "www".

In any event, they are all identical now (as of yesterday morning when I last checked anyway).

Sounds to me like the pages you're missing were freshbot listings. Are they deep pages?

May not show again until the next index in a couple of weeks time.

Sit tight, carry on adding content and developing a great site and don't worry too much.

TJ

[suggy]

Hi trillianjedi

That's a bit of a bugger, but I guess you're right. Spent too long over analysing events leading up to the last update when I should have been building links and content. Then, damn - deepcrawl happened. Won't make that mistake again!

Just for the record. The site is PR4 (its first PR). I have been adding on average a page a day. Have had loads of freshbot visits (nearly every other day). And, was seeing new pages listed 3 days after uploading, which is fantastic - I think!

Hi Heini, nope PR has not changed. Site is always up and crawled by Freshbot just yesterday.

Sit tight I think. But when will that update be? Or, am I too early to start that speculation?!

Suggy

[trillianjedi]

When the update will be is anyone's guess, but my guess is sometime in the next 2-4 weeks.

Sounds like you're doing everything right - a page a day, good content etc.

That's all you can do. It's really easy to get carried away with the whole PR and google thing. We all do it.

Truth is, it does take time to properly establish a site. Don't set yourself unrealistic expectations is my advice - if you're aiming to be top of the SERPS for your main keyword search (assuming you're not already) within 2 months, make it 4 months. You'll sleep easier!

Keep up the good work and review your situation with the google SERPS after the next update. There's nothing you can really do until then anyway except keep getting the inbound links.

TJ

[robertito62]

"...except keep getting the inbound links..."

if it were that easy...

[trillianjedi]

if it were that easy...

Yeah, you're right! Let me rephrase it:-

"Keep *trying* to get more inbound links"!

TJ