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How long is a Google ban?

         

Tablet of Wax

4:08 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We reported one of our competitors for cheating the
google index about 2 weeks ago. Today we find that
their listing has completely disappeared and even
a search on their domain name results in google
stating it does not exist.

Their site is still on line, so unless something
else has happened, then it looks like google does
sometimes check reports and takes action.

So back to the question, how long a time period are
they likely to be removed for?

mrguy

9:35 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Depends on how long it takes them to clean up the site and ask for a re-inlclusion.

In general, if they clean it up right away and then ask for the re-inclusion, I think their looking at a minimum of 3 months of being out of the index.

From reading through post on the board here, I concluded that 3 months was the quickest a site got back in and many stayed out much longer.

No proof of this just a general assumption on my part.

I hope spammers get kicked out much longer than that, but it's not up to me!

Chris_R

10:11 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google is working on this more and more.

If they want to be considered for reinclusion, put "reinclusion request" into the title of the email and send it to support@google.com. I think they are filtering the emails to go to the right department - so make sure that is in the title.

Google wants to do this on an automatic basis. If you have hidden text - google might - for example - ban you for two months - the you will automatically be put back in after that time.

If the filter is by machine - your reinclusion will - most likely be by machine as well. If someone did it by hand - you will may need them to reinclude it by hand.

The google spam report is NOT FOR PEOPLE TO RAT OUT THEIR neighbors. It is NOT designed to be - what most people use it for - a way to get your site listed higher.

It is designed for google to make a better search engine.

99% of the people that use it - use it for getting THEIR sites listed higher PERIOD.

Google wants a better search engine, but they also don't want to be mr. big brother beat down. After the problem is fixed - it will be allowed back in after a time [in many cases].

How long is I think something is google is working on - they have already said one year is too long. I think in most cases you are looking at 3 - 5 months - but that is just a semi educated guess.

I guess google wants to be a good parent. Parents don't [hopefully] kill their kids if they draw on the wall. They get punished, but the length of the punishment varies depending on various factors.

The idea being - too keep the kid from writing on the wall again - but in some sort of reasonable fashion. Not eliminate the kid from the face of the earth to prevent him from ever doing it again.

twilight47

10:17 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does Google notify any potential offender either before or after banning them?

mrguy

11:49 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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--Does Google notify any potential offender either before or after banning them? --

Nope!

Not their responsilbity.

It is the offending sites reposnibility to read the TOS before they do something that could result in a ban.

mrguy

11:53 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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--99% of the people that use it - use it for getting THEIR sites listed higher PERIOD.--

Yes, unfortunatly many times to get any higher in the SERPs it is necessary to remove all the SPAM that is ahead you.

So, it is serving two puposes, One getting rid of SPAM, if it wasn't SPAM, Google wouldn't remove it.

As a result, SPAM free sites move up.

Stands to reason.

anallawalla

12:17 am on Apr 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm in the 1% then as I have about 2 competitors in my own country and one of them has no web site and the other is in another city.

I report spam sites that I discover and I don't mind doing some digging once I find someone who is genuinely spamming. Latest example:

There is an online tool out there that lets you check your positioning against your search term in numerous engines and directories. It is hosted by a company that brags about their clients' successes and lets you prove it by searching for those phrases with their tool. It also shows the dozen or so domains/sites it built for those clients and these sites all look the same. Some use hidden text and others trick you by hiding the scrollbar (white on white) and you don't realise you are looking at a huge, scrollable page with a dictionary below the visible screen. Usually their clients hog nearly every position in a SERP of 10 hits.

Initially I reported one set of sites using the "dissatisfied" form. Later, having done some digging, I found the SEO and reported via a spam report yesterday. Now to sit back and see what happens.