Backlinks from same domain

[TerryMc]

I've seen a lot of sites that have hundreds and even thousands of backlinks to them. However, if you cycle through the pages of backlinks, there are a lot of what might be considered duplicates with only a few regular links from other domains.

For example I'll use domain.com and it has a backlinks of:

blue.domain.com
red.domain.com
orange.domain.com
www.domain.com/blue
www.domain.com/red
www.domain.com/orange

Do all of these backlinks count for popularity and PR or does google have something in their algo that will only count domain.com once no matter how many times they show in their backlinks?

[MetropolisRobot]

TerryMc

IMHO these links count for popularity and PR if they come from a PR4 page or above, but remember that the more links that come from a page to other pages the more diluted the PR that the target page receives if that makes sense.

This stuffing of pages with links and generating fantastic number of backlinks seems to be one way of spoofing the search engine. You can get penalized for it (I have been), and there seems to be some threshold over which thou shalt not cross, but since I restructured and actually added more useful links then my penalty seems to have gone.

However my position has slipped and I now have to pay more for advertising. But should the great day come when some other people are penalized then the playing field will be equal again.

[TerryMc]

Its very interesting, on my sites, anytime I have a link I do something like <a href="/directory/page.php"> and my site doesn't have a lot of internal "backlinks".. However, if I look at the source on some of the sites that do have tons of internal backlinks, they hard code their domain in there like <a href="http://www.domain.com/directory/page.php">

Does google not consider the first example as a backlink since it doesn't actually see the "domain.com"?

[Clark]

The sim spider of this site seems to have a problem with properly recognizing relative links, but google MUST know the different or their spider wouldn't spide very well. OTOH, it is possible they don't count the relative links the same as the hardcoded ones..if that' true, it's a HUGE oversight. If they think an internal backlink shouldn't count or should count less, they shouldn't differentiate from an absolute or relative link. If anyone has https:// on their site, they need those relative links. I'd love to know from the experts if they noticed this to be true as well.

[doc_z]

> Does google not consider the first example as a backlink since it doesn't actually see the "domain.com"?

TerryMc

there are no problems with relative links. Some people prefer linking their home page with absolute links to avoid PR splitting, e.g. between www.domain.com and www.domain.com/index.htm. However, I don't agree with that. Normally Google identifies these two pages as the same.

[markusf]

lets say your pages have a menu bar with a home button on it. If your site had 50,000 pages that would show up as 50,000 backlines to home granted the menu bar was on every page. Surely you can't be banned for that?

[PatrickDeese]

I recently updated a site that has been worked on for the past 4 years off and on.

every page has a link to the home page, but some were:

index.html
others were [domain.com...]
and still others were [domain.com...]

so I changed them all to: [domain.com...] about 3 weeks ago.

I figure that it couldn't hurt, and it might help. :)