When will a backlink show up

[stratocaster]

If I were to get a backlink today about when will this be crawled and show up in the google results? Ive decided to buy 4 pr 8 links and im curious when the best time to start the link would be to save money.

By the way these links were negotiated privately, not through that pr ad selling site.

Thanks

[takagi]

Google recalculates the PR of a page only once a month. Usually it is the data collected by the deepbot that is used for calculating the PR. Deepbot starts crawling soon after the Google dance is over (i.e. a few days after the dance started). Last Google dance started April 11 [webmasterworld.com] so the next one will be around May 11. However, it is hard to predict on what day the next dance will start becuase the interval [webmasterworld.com] can be 20 days or more than 40 days.

If they can add the PR8 links within 3 or 4 days after you ask them to do so, you should just wait for the next dance to start and then ask them to insert it.

[mil2k]

Yeah i agree.

[Shak]

Ive decided to buy 4 pr 8 links and im curious when the best time to start the link would be to save money.

By the way these links were negotiated privately, not through that pr ad selling site.

I really would NOT encourage this activity.

IF, and I mean IF the backlinks ever show up, have you thought that your competition may just get a teeny bit suspicious and send in a spam report.

maybe its just me, but this really is not behaviour which should be encouraged at all, and certainly not the way webmasters should be planning for the long term.

Shak

[vincevincevince]

Shak...

Forget about them being high PR. High PR is only a measure of High Importance. What he/she is doing is buying advertising on popular / authoratative sites.

Google, like users, values those things that important sites associate / link themselves with.

If your favourite celebrity says he/she loves to eat at Jim's Cafe, then that makes Jim's seem more important, and command a better image. Is it wrong that Jim's paid him/her to say it? I don't think so, he/she wouldn't associate with Jim's if Jim's was indeed bad, for it would hurt his/her image. Same with Google, it's just automating the process.

[Shak]

sorry vince, no can do for me.

who is he/she/they trying to kid, blatant buying of PR in order to gain an unethical/unfair advantage in Google.

as Heini said:

since prices are determined by pr and number of links, not impressions and size.

I know lots of people have done it, are doing it, and are thinking about doing it, but it really aint the way to go.

Shak

[hitchhiker]

It's advertising!?

[stratocaster]

You really would not encourage this activity? lol get real. I can't let 1 page spam sites beat me because of keyword domains anymore. I myself have setup some of these spammy keyword domains not long ago and bought links on mostly pr 7 sites and I was #3 and #5 for a 1 word very competitive search term. Now I must do something to push up my longterm brands that ive been working on for years and have been struggling in google.

Lets face it. There is no possible way for google to know the intentions of someone buying a link. I am just buying flat text link ads on high PR sites and it works.

Google really has created this mess themselves. My competitors are buying links as well. My main worry is that google will dump pagerank and incoming anchor text but if they do then ill just stop buying the links.

If google were to penalize my sites just because it looks suspicious I think I would have a good case in court. Nobody should be punished for just doing business in a way google doesnt approve of.

I will let everybody know how my rankings for my brand domains change in the next couple of months. If it goes well im gonna go with one of those new backlink networks and buy like 2000 pr 6 links in bulk.

[Shak]

If google were to penalize my sites just because it looks suspicious I think I would have a good case in court. Nobody should be punished for just doing business in a way google doesnt approve of.

Yes, just show them the contract You and Google signed, combined with regular payments you have been making for the traffic that they send you, and any Judge will take on the case.

who is kidding who?

Shak

[stratocaster]

You really cant be that dense. Google cant penalize sites without cause. Buying links on other sites is simply advertising and regardless how could google ever prove I paid these sites for the links? I'd be willing to bet this is all mute because google will never notice anyway. I actually think if google ever penalized someone for selling flat links google would lose in court for discouraging free trade. Webmasters have a right to sell their ads however they choose and if google doesnt like it they could just eliminate the entire PR concept.

[Shak]

"dense" = Slow to apprehend; thickheaded.

Thank you for your compliments.

Shak

[stratocaster]

You're welcome.

Do a search on highly competive terms and check the results backlinks. You will find it is a growing practice. This is what makes America so great. You either adapt or disappear.

[edneil]

Yes and in my experience, those going for the quick easy option diappear again and again.

[stratocaster]

Who has disappeared from buying text links? I would say it is better to be seen and disappear than to never have been seen at all. I don't plan on disappearing though. I have a huge financial stake and if I believed there was a chance I would be caught I would never do it. I believe all google will do is put far less emphasis on pagerank and incoming link text.

[HitProf]

stratocaster,

I don't think you're familiar with the Search King case?

Google *has* been taken to court for penalizing a site and won the case because the judge sees PR as an opinion.