when do freshbot listings appear/disappear

Is there a pattern?

[Receptional Andy]

I couldn't find anything in the freshbot FAQ or site search about this.

Freshbot listings come and go on the main SERPs frequently, and I sometimes see the same fresh tag 2 days running. Normally in the morning here in the UK I don't see any fresh listings, and then they appear (and disappear?) during the day.

I'm wondering if there is a pattern to when these listings appear. Do the fresh listings appear a certain amount of time after the fresh crawl, or for a certain amount of time? As far as I can tell, the fresh tags seem to appear at the same time to all users regardless of location.

If anyone has tracked when the fresh tags appear and for how long, I would be very interested.

[jimbeetle]

I don't think anybody has noticed a pattern, if they had I'm sure they would have posted it.

According to past posts by GoogleGuy it's basically just whenever they feel like it.

[annej]

I wonder if there is a PR factor. On my PR6 pages the date is usually up within a day and stays up 2 or 3 days. Actually it pretty much stays up all the time as the PR6 gets regular visits from the freshbot. On my site that just dropped to PR5 I notice that fresh bot visited but there was no fresh date in the serps the next day. Maybe it just didn't gulp enough information. It really concerns me as that is the site where I put up a lot of fresh topical information.

[Skier]

I change content almost every day and have been trying to spot the pattern too. Today there are no fresh dates in my cat at all.

I seem to get a standard 48 hour turnaround when it settles down. That may last for weeks. Then, it stops. No fresh listings for a day or two in the cat. Next, some re-appear, usually not mine. After 6-8 days mine do come back, and a regular update pattern resumes.

I can tell that the breaks are related to the "monthly" dance, but there seems to be no set length of time after the dance.

[netguy]

Something very strange is indeed going on... freshtags popping up, then gone... Just checked some of my sites and cache is getting older and older. The good news is CNN's cache is dated April 11........ Go figure.

[jimbeetle]

annej,

I know PR isn't a factor as to whether a site is crawled or not. Whenever freshie is out it grabs groups of pages from one of my sites which is about a PR minus something. A day or two later it starts to get traffic from Google. Can't ever check it in the SERPs themselves because by the time I check my logs and get there -- all gone.

netguy,

I thought the cache was always taken from the deep crawl with no connection to freshbot.

[annej]

The good news is CNN's cache is dated April 11

That makes me feel better. :)

I seem to get a new cache after fresh bot but just part of the time. It's not a permanent thing.

It seems to me frequency of fresh bot is related to PR. Maybe that is just an illusion but I though others had mentioned it on this forum before. The other thing some have said is that fresh bot frequecy is related to how often you update. Sometimes it hard to know what that is written here is fact and what is a theory.