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6:12 pm on Apr 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In a Seattle Times Paul Andrewsarticle [seattletimes.nwsource.com] Paul Andrews says:
As someone who has written about Google's ingenuity and brilliance on the one hand, and the dangers of a single controlling search utility for the Web on the other, I'm encouraged by the sudden competition. I was surprised, however, by some sources who more or less dismissed MSN's comments as me-tooism.

You can only cry wolf so many times until it is either time to put-up or shut-up or be dismissed.

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But several people with knowledge of the system said it consists of more than 54,000 servers designed by Google engineers from basic components.

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THE immense size of the system helps explain why taking on Google will not be easy. "Managing search at our scale is a very serious barrier to entry," Mr. Schmidt said.

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Wow, he just described the business plan of all the failed search engines. Commercialize your search results.
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50 some thousand boxes is a drop in the bucket to MS. Its the software that's the real barrier.
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Author Wrote: "In the marriage of search with content, money will talk. And who has the loudest cash balance of all?"

I don't necessarily think that is true. I think it is whoever is the hungriest for success. There are also a a number of search engines out there that can challenge Google as far as quality but they don't have the buzz, momentum or marketing savvy to even come close to Google with amount of daily searches.

Then there is MSN's stigma it has as the Goliath and webmasters prefer to think of themselves as the David. They will take a slingshot swing at anything MSN tries to do.

If there is going to be a serious Google challenger, it won't come from MSN. However, in the end, as with all former big name search engines, Google may prove to be their own worst enemy.

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I agree with you. MSN would be best to launch a new, [seemingly] unconnected search engine, marketed on high search quality etc. It has the budget and marketing that could make it an overnight success. Then, and only then, should the start their PPC or whatever schemes on it.

Finally... they can bring kudos to the MSN search by saying it is now provided by newsearchengine.com ;)

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MS's inability to build a viable search engine is once and for all prima facia proof that Microsoft Windows Operating Systems do not scale to enterprise level environments.
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MS's inability to build a viable search engine is once and for all prima facia proof that Microsoft Windows Operating Systems do not scale to enterprise level environments

Then MS does not have to build on Windows OS. I would be surprised if they do not already run some enterprise apps on OS other than windows.

All said, any challenge to Google is at least a few years away and Google rocks for now:)

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A while back (some years...) we here at WebmasterWorld had a post re: Microsoft running (internally) a machine that, after probing, revealed to be linux, running apache, and that had been stable (turned on) for more than 100+ days...:)

It was quite funny.

After seeing that even inside Microsoft, they were using linux technology for servers, why would anybody have a delusion about their ability of their servers to work or not at the enterprise level?

Google, on the other hand, has shown that linux seems to work out very well indeed for search engine technology.

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Maybe IE 7 will offer in-line address bar spelling correction and display this when you type g-o-o-g-l-e

"did you mean to type MSN? Redirecting to closest match [msn.com]."

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Maybe IE 7 will offer in-line address bar spelling correction and display this when you type g-o-o-g-l-e
"did you mean to type MSN? Redirecting to closest match [msn.com].<<<

now THATS funny! )

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In the marriage of search with content, money will talk.

Hogwash! In the marriage of search with content, money will degrade the quality of the SERPS ... particularly in MSN's hands.