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Surely Google is just a library, but how many libraries demand to stock only have hardbacks, all books in one language, no obsenities, and such other rules?
I think a library has a motto of individualality and freedom of expression, in whatever form. A good library will stock all forms of books in various languages and themes, some all words, some no words at all. It may stock videos etc. A library will even stock books that may go against the ideas of the county it exists in, like Marxism, Facism, communism, but freedom to express yourself in the form you choose is the rule.
Now the Google's library......
They have a large set of rules, they say to detect spammers, but I have no spam at all in my site, although I use similar methods, and have been banned or dropped.
So where's the freedom to show MY site the way I want to?
Just because I use methods that spammers use, that doesnt mean I spam.
I look forward to a new Library for the internet, or to Googles rethinking of their algos.
You have the freedom to show your site they way you want. Google has the right to decide whether your book is going to add value to the library or waste valuable shelf space
;)
They don't get any money from a government. So what's the point?
I suggest removing those things which make you look like a spam site. You got to work with Google on this one I think, after all, you'd not want spammers to [always] get higher SERPS than you?
Many people look forward to a Search Engine with no vendor sites or corporate advertising in it, but without missing out on informative content. But that isn't going to happen either.
Just because I use methods that spammers use, that doesnt mean I spam.
What does it make you then?
If you do things that Google say will get you banned and you go ahead and do them, why are you suprised that you are now banned, you play with fire you get burnt!
Craig
Just because I use methods that spammers use, that doesnt mean I spam.
Ah, but that is the nature of spam. Because of spammers, everyone else is more likely to be treated like a spammer. They ruin the world for everyone else.
The folks at my corner petrol station give reasonable directions and offer tips on good eateries to out of towners who stop by. That doesn't make the store a travel agent or the local chamber of commerce.
I can understand Google needs algo's just for the number of sites it has to read, but I think it needs alot of improvement. I could probably still find sites that teach and suggest the use of hidden content made visible on event. The internet says we can do it, Google says no (and not just Google, not indexed in all SE's, although they probably converse). I have changed all my content, whether its too late I don't know. Whether I've changed it enough, who knows?
The fact is I was taught by studying here on the net, and when I implement my studies, I am told its not allowed.
I see it like this.....
I'm told driving will get me better business.
So I learn to drive.
I get a car.
Smugglers are caught crossing the border with a car full of illegal goods.
Cars are banned from crossing borders.
I have to stay within my area, with a nice new car.
Its like saying smugglers use cars to smuggle, so we'll ban all cars from travel.
I think I know what my first charitable donation to my alma mater will be. ;)
I dont want to go down to my library and find farm sex in the medical section, brittney spears in the art section, and the 'best mortage rates around' in the fiction section.
I also know that the library would be overwhelmed beyond function if they had 5 billion books to go through.
So the library asks you to label your book, make sure it has an ISBN, tell us if its fiction or not, what the general topic is, and sees if your book is valuable by the caliber of other books that reference it. They don't like it when you try to pull a book off the shelf, and it gets replaced really quick in your book bag with a different book. Heck, they even realize that small white text at the bottom of the page is worthless to someone checking out the book...
Considering how many people are trying to get their books on the shelf at the front, I think the google library is doing well.
I sent a member of this forum my URL, here's a bit of his reply.......
....Th content on your site is excellent, your site on the whole is really cool, there no reason why you shoudlnt be #1 its just getting the big G to indx all that valuable info youve got.....
Now if that was sent to a library, they would be VERY interested in shelving my book.......
Thanks Mike........
Google has to restrict easily exploitable methods because there are people who do just that. The sooner you realize that, the better.
Trust me, i REALLY understand your pain. I'm a designer, and working with the restrictions of the web is very confining. But I realize file size is an issue, and I work within those restrictions so I have visitors that don't hate me.
Spam is the directories issue, and it has to restrict things. It sucks, but its reality, and although they are working to be better, so are the people making the pages.
Your other option is to do whatever you want, and promote it yourself, without a directories help... otherwise, you have to play by their rules, for better or worse.
SN
of course not, SPAM is SPAM and theres no mistaking it for high quality meat.
sorry markdidj, if the spammers way is the path you have chosen and then you're banned... you shouldnt be surprised or upset. if you want to be included on the "grill" of google, throw some quality "meat" their way.
remove whatever spam tactics youre using that you dont consider to be spam (if that even makes sense) and get in the highest quality SERPs on the internet.
If you want people to find your site via Google, you have to play by their rules, which to be fair is not very hard to do :)
Craig
