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Low PR beating high PR

         

PunkJazz

5:00 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2 word search phrase ie. "purple widgets", the 13th result is a pr5 webmaster resource link page with 3 instances of the word "widgets" and ZERO instances of the word "purple". How does this beat out my HIGHLY optimized pr5 site with "purple widgets" featured prominently in the page title, about 15% "purple widgets" keyword density, multiple "purple widgets" H1 and H2 headings, several pictures of "purple widgets" named "purple-widgets.jpg" etc each with purple widgets alt-tags and a SLEW of "purple widgets" anchor text, plus incoming links with anchor text "purple widgets"?

My site has been fully spidered and is not brand new, the other site is absolutely 100% for sure NOT cloaked and by the nature of the site I would bet my life on the fact that no incoming links to any page on that site have anchor text "purple widgets" or are even from any sites that have anything to do with "purple widgets".

This is not a rant, I am just trying to figure out what I can possibly have missed. Another pr5 site of mine optimized in EXACTLY the same manner as this "purple widgets" page is currently #1 for a search term with 2,000,000+ results.

I have not been in this game that long so I can't compare to a a year ago or 2 years ago but as I go through my round of checking keywords and searching in general it is clear to me that google is currently serving up horribly inconsistent and in many cases laughably rediculous and totally irrelevant results.

ps: I have definately noticed a huge new trend of news articles appearing very high in google serps and in many many cases having absolutely 100% NOTHING to do with the search term other than a coincidental occurance of the words that make up the seacrh phrase, usually separated by many paragraphs of text. This recent adjustment of the algo to give a huge boost to anything google interprets as a news article is a total fiasco, at least in the keyword phrase universe I pay attention to. Spammers the world over are opening up "news" sites and posting "news" artcicles on them as you read this.

Powdork

5:05 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



This is not a rant, I am just trying to figure out what I can possibly have missed. Another pr5 site of mine optimized in EXACTLY the same manner as this "purple widgets" page is currently #1 for a search term with 2,000,000+ results.

You're right, that part was not a rant.

I have not been in this game that long so I can't compare to a a year ago or 2 years ago but as I go through my round of checking keywords and searching in general it is clear to me that google is currently serving up horribly inconsistent and in many cases laughably rediculous and totally irrelevant results.

That was.;)

Try allinanchor:purple widgets to see how your site and the other rank as far as incoming anchor text for the kw.

PunkJazz

5:41 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



The other sites incoming "purple widgets" anchor text links are zero. In fact it's incoming links for "purple" are zero and for "widgets" also zero. It was a mistake to even mention my site, the real question is what is this page that has only one word of the 2 word search phrase doing ahead of hundreds of others that have muliple instances of both words in the domain name, page title, content and anchor text? The answer is that it is a pr5 site and that demonstrates a fatal flaw in the entire google page rank concept. This page has pr5 based on it's relevance to webmaster resources and yet that pr so outweighs every other factor that it is polluting the serps for a search phrase that doesn't even appear anywhere on the entire site.

My use of "purple widgets" is also somewhat misleading, it would be more accurate to compare this to a site all about football with the word "tackle" on a page of links to common football terminology to outrank hundreds of fishing sites for the search term "fishing tackle". Purely on the strength of its pr5, which is itself based on the sites relevance to football topics, not fishing or fishing tackle topics.

This is an excellent example for anyone who thinks pr does not have a HUGE impact on where a page lands on the google serps. Don't kid yourself.

born2drv

5:47 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



How do you know it has zero backlinks with purple in it? For all you know, it has 10,000,000 backlinks all with PR3...

NotePad

5:48 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)



check the site with alltheweb to see all the backlinks